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Creating rigid elements in FEmap

Creator
Creator

Hi There fellow users.

 

Does anyone know how to create a rigid element between the holes of two lugs? to simulate a pin joint for example?

 

Cheers

 

Brett

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Re: Creating rigid elements in FEmap

Legend
Legend

Hi BrettlMC,

 

You can use the Custom Tools / Meshing :

Spider Curves : select two curves and Femap will create a RBE2 with a master node located at the center of the circle (if hole) 

Spider Nodes : select nodes and hit ok ==> RBE2 created

Spider Surfaces : for solid mesh, select two surfaces and Femap will create a RBE2.

 

Note1: The slave nodes of the RBE2 created by these API script will have rotational DOF free. 

You will be able to update this using Modify / Update Elements / Rigid DOF...

 

Note2: You could also create a RBE2 using Model / Element or ctrl+E under Type select Rigid. 

 

Note3: RBE2 Master node have always 6DOF defined. You can only play with the slave nodes DOF. 

 

Note4: a Slave Node could not be constrained. 

 

Note5: You can also use the Custom Tools / Meshing / Hole to Hole Fastener. This will create two RBE2 + Beam element. Before using it, you need to create and activate a beam property which represent your pin...

 

Regards,

Seifeddine Naffoussi

Re: Creating rigid elements in FEmap

Creator
Creator
Thanks for that.

The spider nodes seem easy to create.
Ive tried the Hole to hole fastener approach and it comes up with fatal
errors regarding the DOF.
Is there an extra step I have to do?

Brett

Re: Creating rigid elements in FEmap

Creator
Creator

Hi SN,

 

Ive spent a few hours playing around now to no avail.

Essentially I want a rigid element connecting the two holes in the picture. I will then apply a load at the centre of the rigid element.

Any thoughts on the best way to do this?

 

Brett

Re: Creating rigid elements in FEmap

Legend
Legend

If I well understood your problem then you want to check the Lugs under the load transefered by your pin. (feasible manually)

If the load is applied along Z-axis then create a spider (RBE2) for each hole (pick only 7 nodes on the -Z side of your hole) and then create an RBE3 connecting the two RBE2 master nodes and apply your load on the RBE3 slave node.

It will also better to use two CBUSH elements between each RBE2 / RBE3 interface to extract forces...

 

Seifeddine Naffoussi

Re: Creating rigid elements in FEmap

Experimenter
Experimenter

I have a similar situation in which I am trying to transmit a load from a node into a structure using RBE2 elements.  In your diagram is the CBUSH element placed between the RBE3 elements and the RBE2 elements?

Re: Creating rigid elements in FEmap

Legend
Legend
Hi,

Yes CBUSH between RBE2 and RBE3(or RBE2).

Because when you have a node connected to two RBE you will not be able to extract results from this node and you will have a value near to zero. That's why a CBUSH element is useful.
Seifeddine Naffoussi

Re: Creating rigid elements in FEmap

Experimenter
Experimenter

Great thank you!

 

One more thing how does changing the stiffness of the CBUSH element influence the results of the analysis?  What I mean by this is does a stiffer CBUSH element or a CBUSH element with minimal stiffness help in transferring the applied load?

Re: Creating rigid elements in FEmap

Legend
Legend

You should control how stiff the connection needs to be. If you need to model a bearing and have some stiffeness values from vendor for example then you can enter  these stiffenesses directly in the CBUSH property. To model a fastener, a stiffness of 1E+12 N/m is generally used and of course will rigidly transfer the loads. You can use the Femap Freebody to verify if forces and moments are correctly transferred to the rest of your structure.

 

  

Seifeddine Naffoussi

Re: Creating rigid elements in FEmap

Valued Contributor
Valued Contributor

Hi,

 

I am trying to extract the forces at RBE2 elements. 

 

I saw Seif mention that the user cannot extract the forces at RBE2 elements and that is why you need CBUSH element.

 

However, if the "MPCFORCE" card is set "ON" in the NASTRAN input file shouldn't the forces at the RBE2 elements be available.

 

I went to the Analyses -> Edit -> Output -> Checked on the Force Balance, Constraint Force and Equation Force.

 

Let me know your thoughts on this issue.

 

Regards,

 

Saptarshi