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Stress Post-Processing Data results for a solid that meshes different zones

Hello everyone,

 

I'am amateur for femap. I have a problem with the Stress presentation of Post-Processing Data  for a solid that meshes different zones. This solid was imported from file .stp (that I designed Catia V5) into Femap Nastran for analysis Finite Elements. I divided differrent zones for mesh differrent size on solid (as joint photo).

 

The nonlinear analysis (Nonlinear Static) present correctly the zone of the Von Mises stress. But when I present other stress direction, it is likely not correct to present stress in the zone divided (as joint photo).

 

Anyone can give me some idea to prove this problem ?

Thank you for you answer.

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Re: Stress Post-Processing Data results for a solid that meshes different zones

NASTRAN reports linear stresses in the Global Coordinate System.  Nonlinear stresses are reported in the Elemental Coordinate System.  Therefore Y-Stress will look great for linear, but look strange for nonlinear.  In FEMAP, you can transform the Elemental Nonlinear Stresses to Global in the Meshing Toolbox on the Post-Processing Tab -

 

PIck the Nonlinear Stress component you would like to visualize, and then set the "Solid Stress/Strain" transform to the Global Coordinate System (0 in FEMAP).

 

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Re: Stress Post-Processing Data results for a solid that meshes different zones

Hello, masherman

 

Thank you for you reply. I follow your steps but the result is unchange (as the joint photo).

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Accepted by topic author WNT
‎09-13-2016 11:07 AM

Re: Stress Post-Processing Data results for a solid that meshes different zones

When you mention the stresses are not as expected, what orientation are you expecting? It would be common to be interested in radial and hoop stress around a hole. If you want to see the direct stresses in that orientation, then you must create a cylindrical coordinate system at the center of the hole. Then use the transform dropdown under Solid Stress/Strain to this system, not X is radial and Y is tangential. This transformation will work for the linear stress output without any other action.

 

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Now for nonlinear, an extra setting is required to make the transformation work correctly. As Mark stated, for nonlinear, the solid element stress output is oriented/reported in the element system. So we need to change the orientation setting in Femap to match this. This is the little icon with an arrow through it, to the right of "transform" and it will bring the following form where you should update the solid element to "element"

 

 

 

Many users prefer to stick to results like von mises and principal stresses to avoid this issue.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Joe

Re: Stress Post-Processing Data results for a solid that meshes different zones

 Hello Joe,
 
Thank you very much for your advice. I follow your step and the problem has been solved.
 
To answer your question,
I would like to observe the stress along Y-direction in the root of notch, and calculate stress gradient.

Re: Stress Post-Processing Data results for a solid that meshes different zones

>>NASTRAN reports linear stresses in the Global Coordinate System.  Nonlinear stresses are reported in the Elemental Coordinate System.

 

Mark, thanks for this valuable insight. Is the above mentioned in any of the Femap or NX Nastran documentation? Will be helpful to have it bookmarked for future purposes.

Re: Stress Post-Processing Data results for a solid that meshes different zones

In the latest Nastran documentation(Help/NXNastran/basic nonlinear guide;section 2 page 12), you can find the following section:

 

Output
For this output discussion, an element is a nonlinear element if it supports geometric nonlinear and
PARAM,LGDISP,1 is defined, and/or material nonlinear (plasticity, creep or hyperelastic) is defined
on this element.
Element stress and strain output is requested with the STRESS case control command. The stress
and strain output for nonlinear elements is written into both a nonlinear and a linear format. The
nonlinear format outputs stresses together with strains. Compared to the linear format, the nonlinear
format provides more information with regard to nonlinear material laws (effective strain, equivalent
stress etc.). The stresses and strains of the small strain elements refer to the undeformed area
and length, respectively. The components of the stresses and strains are in the deformed element
coordinate system which co-rotates with the elements' rigid body deformation.
Averaged grid point stresses are requested with the GPSTRESS case control command. Averaged
grid point stresses for nonlinear elements is available in nonlinear static analysis but not in nonlinear
transient analysis.
Element forces are requested with the FORCE case control command except for the CBUSH and
CBUSH1D elements. The STRESS and NLSTRESS case control commands should be used to
request the element force and stress output for the CBUSH and CBUSH1D elements. Element forces
per unit length refer to the undeformed length. The components of the element forces are in the
deformed element system. For nonlinear elements, element forces are available in nonlinear static
analysis but not in nonlinear transient analysis. Element forces are not available for solid elements.
Deformations are requested with the DISPLACEMENT case control command. The output of
displacements and rotations is available in nonlinear static and transient analysis.
Grid point forces are not available in nonlinear static or transient analysis.