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How to change Simulate Tool position on the machine configurator?

Solution Partner Pioneer Solution Partner Pioneer
Solution Partner Pioneer

Hi,
i`m working on 5axis machine simulate customize.
controllor is iTNC530 and i have a question of Machine configurator.

 

The "cycl def 7" command value is fixed "0".
And when i start machine code simulate, tool position is not matched on Local MCS.
I can understand why this happening.

 

Now is Question.
Keep above this condition(about cycl def 7 command value),
How to change simulate tool position about on the Machine configurator?

 

Machine Zero position is Spindle head point.
MCS Position is on the part.
If you are need more information, i`ll give you another information.

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Re: How to change Simulate Tool position on the machine configurator?

Gears Esteemed Contributor Gears Esteemed Contributor
Gears Esteemed Contributor

If your MCS has the "Fixture Offset" value set to zero, then your machine simulation is based on the machine zero.

If you need it based on a different preset, then you need to change the value to 1 or above depending on the preset you use on the machine.

Stefan Pendl, Systemmanager CAx, HAIDLMAIR GmbH
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Re: How to change Simulate Tool position on the machine configurator?

Solution Partner Pioneer Solution Partner Pioneer
Solution Partner Pioneer

Hi, Stefan.

 

See this situation.

Tool position is wrong.

I want to tool position is matched Part location.

11.jpgFixed RED BOX

 

22.jpgMachine zero position

How can i solve this problem??

help please.

Re: How to change Simulate Tool position on the machine configurator?

Siemens Phenom Siemens Phenom
Siemens Phenom

#### update ###

 

sorry its not related to tool change ;-)

 

####

 

Hi,

 

the values for the tool change position itself can easily configured (without Machine Configurator) within the toolchange subprogram. Look at the marked lines

 

2017-06-28 09_18_11-Program Manager.jpg

 

 

If CYCL DEF 7 is called before the toolchange starts and there are offsets included then the tool change positions are depending on that offset.

 

Normally the tool change position is on a fixed position in machine coordinate system and independent of any local work offsets. 

 

Thomas

Re: How to change Simulate Tool position on the machine configurator?

Siemens Phenom Siemens Phenom
Siemens Phenom

Please verify the following points:

- Move to machine zero position with L X0 Y0 Z0 without a tool --> works as expected?
- Move to machine zero position with L X0 Y0 Z0 with a tool and activated tool length compensation --> works as expected?
- verify M128 

  • mount a tool
  • activate tool length compensation
  • Activate M128
  • Move to machine zero position with L X0 Y0 Z0
  • Rotate axis B or C to any value
  • --> stays the tool tip on a fixed position?

 

Thomas

Re: How to change Simulate Tool position on the machine configurator?

Gears Esteemed Contributor Gears Esteemed Contributor
Gears Esteemed Contributor

How is your geometry view setup in the ONT?

Ours is as shown below, where we have the main machine zero at the very top, blow some workpiece groups and below those the corresponding fixture offsets.00_ONT_Geometry_View.PNGONT Geometry View

 

 

01_MCS_Machine_Zero.PNGMain Machine Zero MCS

 

 

02_MCS_1st_Fixture_Offset.PNG1st Fixture Offset MCS

 If you do not have a fixture offset with any number other than zero defined for the operation you are simulating, then the NC code simulation will be done based on the machine zero.

Stefan Pendl, Systemmanager CAx, HAIDLMAIR GmbH
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Re: How to change Simulate Tool position on the machine configurator?

Legend
Legend
Hello,

I see you have defined the Main MCS in the Machine Zero Junction and an Local MCS on the part.
In the NC Code there are
CYCL DEF 7.0 DATUM SHIFT
CYCL DEF 7.1 X=0
CYCL DEF 7.2 Y=0
CYCL DEF 7.3 Z=0

You have to define here the real Values from Main MCS to Local MCS
CYCL DEF 7.0 DATUM SHIFT
CYCL DEF 7.1 X=-100
CYCL DEF 7.2 Y=300
CYCL DEF 7.3 Z=-500

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