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Suggestion for Improvement - Copy and Paste from 1 Operation to Another

Legend
Legend

I was using our CMM this morning and it made me think of this option Calypso has in its software.

You can highlight 1 operation hit format painted (I think this is what its called) and it pops up a window of all the customizeable options real quick from that operation. You select which ones you want and then you highlight all the operations that are the same type and hit ok. It now copies this data to all of the selected operations.

 

Workflow in NX

 

Say you have to change a setting for retract distance in spot drilling or say your lead in / lead out on all your finish wall toolpaths.

High light the first one operation, execute new NX command, select the option you want to copy , highlight the new operations to receive the copied options and execute. Boom in 5 clicks you could have just updated 50 operations with the same setting.


Current work flow... .

Open each one, find the right setting, change, close. x 50 operations

 

What do you guys think?


Dennis Rathi
Creations Unlimited
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Re: Suggestion for Improvement - Copy and Paste from 1 Operation to Another

Legend
Legend

If enough people are interested maybe Ncmatic(https://ncmatic.com/) will devote the time to develop a cost effective app?

@Marek_Pawlus


Dennis Rathi
Creations Unlimited

Re: Suggestion for Improvement - Copy and Paste from 1 Operation to Another

Gears Esteemed Contributor Gears Esteemed Contributor
Gears Esteemed Contributor

If Mark Rief were still posting...

You could do this with a journal (although for specific settings, not "any setting I want to choose this time")

 

There are a bunch of boilerplate/template journals in

%UGII_BASE_DIR%\UGOPEN\SampleNXOpenApplications\.NET\CAM

 

You could use as starting points (ones with "CycleAll" as part of the filename).

Ken Akerboom Sr CAx Systems Engr, Moog, Inc.
Production: NX10.0.3.5 MP16/TC11.2
I'd rather be e-steamed than e-diseaseled


Re: Suggestion for Improvement - Copy and Paste from 1 Operation to Another

Legend
Legend

While i'm sure I could build tons of custom journals I feel like this would be a great OOTB enhancement for Siemens to integrate. I wrote this post to see if anyone else felt the same lol

We are all busy and managing / maintaining custom journals is too time consuming.

 


Dennis Rathi
Creations Unlimited

Re: Suggestion for Improvement - Copy and Paste from 1 Operation to Another

Legend
Legend

When expansive machinery is involved I rather get the data re-processed and validated. Whatever extra time that may take. Not a huge fan of Copy & Paste CAD/CAM data out of RAM memory.

 

Ken's advice on getting automated funtions developed is a slightly more reliable option.

Re: Suggestion for Improvement - Copy and Paste from 1 Operation to Another

Gears Esteemed Contributor Gears Esteemed Contributor
Gears Esteemed Contributor

How about creating an ER with the subject "allow bulk editing of operations" similar to UDEs and Feeds&Speeds ?

We could then add to the ER to get it up to speed.

Stefan Pendl, Systemmanager CAx, HAIDLMAIR GmbH
Production: NX10.0.3, VERICUT 8.1, FBM, MRL 3.1.7 | TcUA 10.1 MP7 Patch 0 (10.1.7.0) | TcVis 11.4
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Re: Suggestion for Improvement - Copy and Paste from 1 Operation to Another

Genius
Genius

I do like that I can mass change... Speeds and Feeds... Start and End Events

 

I have thought it would be nice, more than once, to be able to mass change... Engage and Disengage motions, or Rapid and Transfer Moves.

{Paul Schneider}, {CNC Programmer}, {DRT-Rochester}


Production: {NX11.0.2,MP5, NX12.0.1, MP2}

Re: Suggestion for Improvement - Copy and Paste from 1 Operation to Another

Gears Esteemed Contributor Gears Esteemed Contributor
Gears Esteemed Contributor

Note FOR TURNING, you can create geometry view "Avoidance" object to specify from/start/return/gohome points and associated movement options (and axial/radial clearance planes, and other stuff).

You can also create "Contain" objects for pre-defined containment (front of part, clearance from jaws, etc.)

 

If you pick your geometry parent correctly, operations inherit from above.

Ken Akerboom Sr CAx Systems Engr, Moog, Inc.
Production: NX10.0.3.5 MP16/TC11.2
I'd rather be e-steamed than e-diseaseled


Re: Suggestion for Improvement - Copy and Paste from 1 Operation to Another

Gears Esteemed Contributor Gears Esteemed Contributor
Gears Esteemed Contributor

Similar to the turning avoidance geometry group it would be nice to have such for milling too. Instead of bulk editing one would just need to change the parent group settings and they will be inherited by the child operations.

Stefan Pendl, Systemmanager CAx, HAIDLMAIR GmbH
Production: NX10.0.3, VERICUT 8.1, FBM, MRL 3.1.7 | TcUA 10.1 MP7 Patch 0 (10.1.7.0) | TcVis 11.4
Development: C (ITK), .NET, Tcl/Tk Testing: NX12.0 | AWC 3.4 Preparing: NX12.0

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Re: Suggestion for Improvement - Copy and Paste from 1 Operation to Another

Gears Esteemed Contributor Gears Esteemed Contributor
Gears Esteemed Contributor

I forgot to add...

Milling MCS objects have avoidance (From/Start/return/gohome), lower limit plane, and Clearance options.

3 problems I know about

- many op types don't inherit (or use) lower limit plane

- this probably doesn't have everything you want (engage/retract, etc.)

- "hidden" in MCS object.  If you want a couple different "generic" settings, you run the risk of actually re-defining the MCS (instead of altering avoidance) if user forgets to change settings correctly. 

 

Also remember, legacy "Drill" -> "Drill Geom" (geometry view) objects allow setting multiple operations up using same holes & avoid & etc. (but only for legacy drill  operation types)

Ken Akerboom Sr CAx Systems Engr, Moog, Inc.
Production: NX10.0.3.5 MP16/TC11.2
I'd rather be e-steamed than e-diseaseled


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