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Tool Library Harvey/Helical/Micro100 tools

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As much as I loathe Mastercam, it appears they have teamed up with these tool manufacturers to have imported tool libraries of their entire catalogs. 

 

https://www.harveyperformance.com/tool-libraries/

 

This would save me endless hours and increase my productivity. Maybe Siemens will join them one day.

 

I remember hearing about the MRL library. Does anyone out there use it? What manufacturers is it limited to? If it was initially developed by Siemens, it may be hard to get all the tool manufacturers on-board. 

 

I would even select a particular brand just because it was already available in a library. There is a difference between cutting tool brands, but generally they are very close. It usually boils down to which one is in stock and can be delivered the fastest. 

 

 

 

Glenn Balon
Production: NX 12.0.2 MP7 Primarily CAM
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Re: Tool Library Harvey/Helical/Micro100 tools

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The harvey tool stuff would be great. Im working on doing one with destiny tool that I'd share if anyone else uses them? They are within walking distance to me and we primarily use their tools besides titanium work.

 


Dennis Rathi
Creations Unlimited

Re: Tool Library Harvey/Helical/Micro100 tools

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If I understand correctly, the MRL can import data that follows 

- ISO13399

- needs additional "GTC" (Generic tool catalog?) data as well (I think).

 

That way tool vendors don't need to do CAM systems one-by-one.

I'm not sure what other CAM vendors support those standards for importing tool data.

 

I have heard you can get the "entire" Sandvik catalog (x0,000 tools), although it may take a while to load (days?).

You can download individual Sandvik & Kennametal tools.  I'm sure others as well.

 

Ken Akerboom Sr CAx Systems Engr, Moog, Inc.
Production: NX10.0.3.5 MP16/TC11.2
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Re: Tool Library Harvey/Helical/Micro100 tools

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In MRL you can create your tool components and assemblies manually on your own.

Or you can import Generic Tool Catalogs (GTC) with real vendor data (incl. 3D).

Different tool vendor already provide GTC packages.

 

For example:

Sandvik Coromant

https://www.sandvik.coromant.com/en-gb/downloads/tool-data/Pages/download-tool-data.aspx

(You need to register there for free.)

 

ToolsUnited

https://www.toolsunited.com/App?language=en

They have ca. 900.000 tool components from different vendors.

You can search there for free. If you want to download GTC, you need an account.

For testing you can request at TU a test account to test the GTC download.

 

The GTC import performance has improved. Now importing one product takes approximately 1 or 1.5 seconds.

You don't need to import all products in one go. In the classification tree you can select the desired class and import only the products from this class (and subclasses). This allows you to get the relevant components quickly.

 

Hope this helps...

 

   Markus

 

Re: Tool Library Harvey/Helical/Micro100 tools

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To explicitly answer the MRL question and clearly state what might be obvious to some but not others:

Siemens MRL is not restricted to ANY one tool vendor, because MRL doesn't provide ANY tool vendor data, at all.
What MRL provides is a catalog and tool management SYSTEM, which can be used to classify customer tool libraries, including components and assemblies, and provides a path for that data to interface to NXCAM if desired.

 

As PART of that functionality, MRL includes the capability of importing GTC library data (ISO 13399 specifies the format for these libraries.) Siemens and other tool vendors including Sandvik, ISCAR and worked jointly to develop this ISO specification. Vendors are in various states of implementing it (for example, Kennametal and ISCAR publish tool data in GTC format, but don't currently make a full catalog downloadable in a single large package)

As Markus mentioned, Sandvik makes a large tool library available directly from their site.
Other tool vendors provide tool data on a case by case basis, or provide their data thru a 3rd party aggregator such as MachiningCloud or ToolsUnited.

Both MachiningCloud and ToolsUnited in turn do make data available in GTC formats, which, if you have the proper Heirarchy/Library structures in Teamcenter, you can import the tooling data into Teamcenter MRL and take advantage of the various integrations with NXCAM. Siemens MRL does provide an interface VIEW for accessing ToolsUnited and for importing data from ToolsUnited into the customers MRL, however that is a 3rd party service with their own associated cost which customers are able to choose to use or not on their own.

That being said, customers can also classify their own tooling components, including custom tools, etc rather than using the models (if any) provided by the tooling vendors.

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Re: Tool Library Harvey/Helical/Micro100 tools

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I'd like to know how many people are actually using the MRL....

I'd wager that its like 100 to 1 of people using text libraries vs MRL?


Dennis Rathi
Creations Unlimited

Re: Tool Library Harvey/Helical/Micro100 tools

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@Dstryr  Not many. I have been to dozens of shops and know many other people who have been to even more shops than myself. I've been asking around ever since I heard of it. Half do not know what it is, and the other half do not use it.

 

I'd like to attempt to, but it takes time I do not have. I scratch the surface, then it's rush to get the next part out the door and back to business as usual. 

Glenn Balon
Production: NX 12.0.2 MP7 Primarily CAM

Re: Tool Library Harvey/Helical/Micro100 tools

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I would really like to see a better platform for managing tools along with feeds and speed that are machine dependent.  We are able to do it, but managing over entries into an excel spreadsheet really lack any visual reference and it’s a total pain the butt. 

 

Our current process is a blank NX file will all of our tools / holders inside.  Then speed, feed, doc, woc is driven from the speed and feed spreadsheet

 

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Damian Forsythe
Impact Manufacturing Group
NX 10.0.3.5

Re: Tool Library Harvey/Helical/Micro100 tools

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@IMG 

 

I know you can import multiple tools form the library at one time, but a mass export to the tool library would be helpful. You could send that whole template file out, and then use the fields in the dialog when retrieving from library to narrow down your search. 

 

Using the file as you are is a good option though, because you can toggle through and see the tools. Copy and pasting from one file to another can be faster than the retrieve tool from library dialog. Or just start each new file with all the tools in it to begin with. 

Glenn Balon
Production: NX 12.0.2 MP7 Primarily CAM

Re: Tool Library Harvey/Helical/Micro100 tools

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Yes.  We find it much faster than saving into the tooling lib.  but still a pain compared other softwares

Damian Forsythe
Impact Manufacturing Group
NX 10.0.3.5

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