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General Information regarding Process Simulate Human

Solution Partner Valued Contributor Solution Partner Valued Contributor
Solution Partner Valued Contributor

Hi all,

 

I have following queries regarding human ergonomic simulation in Process simulate :

 

1.) While creating an operation, for example "Walk Operation", on what basis the software commutes the  standard time, and displayes it on the gantt chart? Is it based of MTM-1 or some other standard?

 

2.) I am able to simulate a particular scenario with normal commands like "Auto Grasp","Get" etc. I wanted  to     know about TSB and in what scenarios it should be used as opposed to standard commands?

 

 

I would appreciate any inputs regarding above mentioned queries.

 

Many thanks in advance

 

 

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Re: General Information regarding Process Simulate Human

Siemens Legend Siemens Legend
Siemens Legend

Hi Varun,

 

1) When creating a non TSB walk operation:

The distance is measured

The operation duration is calculated using this distance and the walk speed

The default walk speed is based on MTM1 – and the user can override it in the user options:

hum_opt.png

 

 

When working with a non TSB simulation in PS on eMS / PS Standalone you can also link the operation to MTM codes. Select the human compound operation and invoke: “Edit MTM Information….”:

edt_mtm.png

 

 

 

This will bring up a UI where you can select MTM codes from the MTM timecards.

 

When creating TSB tasks - the times are also based on MTM standards.

For a TSB simulation you can see a list of all the resulting time codes by invoking, “Create Timing Report”:

tim_rep.png

 

 

 

 

2)

For most general human simulations the recommendation is to use TSB.

TSB provides a more intuitive UI to create the simulations, better what if analysis capabilities etc.

In addition TSB has the focus, and most new features will be supported only on TSB.

 

Some features e.g. kinematic operations and human automatically follow moving device - are still supported only with the non TSB operations.

 

You can then author part of the simulation with TSB – wrap the TSB simulation in a compound operation. Author parts of the simulation with the old non TSB operations, wrap this in a compound operation.

Create link as required between the two compound operations.

 

Best regards,

Pelle

Re: General Information regarding Process Simulate Human

Solution Partner Valued Contributor Solution Partner Valued Contributor
Solution Partner Valued Contributor

Hi Pelle,

 

Thanks for the information

 

Regards,

Varun

Re: General Information regarding Process Simulate Human

Experimenter
Experimenter

Dear Pelle,

 

I have some questions like to discuss. Any reply would be appreciated.

 

1) I am not able to change the frequecy number in Edit MTM information,instead I have added several rows of time code, repeating but linked to one operation for example 5 meters walking.If possible ,could you add a vedio to show some steps?

 

2) If I have worked with Non-TSB and TSB together, what is your suggetions to have time report?  work with them seperaterly?

 

3)  After I complted the human simulation,could I consider the simulaiton time  real or precise?  

 

thanks 

Parkman

Re: General Information regarding Process Simulate Human

Siemens Legend Siemens Legend
Siemens Legend

Hi Parkman, 

 

Please see the attached video showing how to "link" an MTM code to an operation.

Just doubleclick the MTM code line, that will open up the dialog.

Then the walk distance is shown, and it will automatically suggest the matching frequency.

 

(view in My Videos)

 

 

Today it is not possible to manually modify the MTM codes on a TSB simulation.

This is something currently being worked on, but not yet scheduled for release.

Today you will need to create separate time reports for the TSB and the non TSB sequence.

 

Best regards, 

Pelle

Re: General Information regarding Process Simulate Human

Siemens Legend Siemens Legend
Siemens Legend

Hi again Parkan, 

 

As for the question about the TSB Walk durations.

The TSB walk durations are not derived from MTM UAS, rather from MTM1.

There is also some "penalty" added, making the TSB walk durations longer than what you may expect.

 

Today, it is not possible to manually modify the TSB MTM codes.

You can however manually change the duration of the Walk Action by right clicking the action and invoke "Operation Properties". That will open up a dialog where you can set the duration of the Action.

 

Going forward we are working on supporting user MTM customization. 

See the video below for the current status of this work:

(view in My Videos)

 

This is still work in progress, final content may differ from what's shown in the video etc.

 

 

Best regards, 

Pelle

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Re: General Information regarding Process Simulate Human

Experimenter
Experimenter

Dear Pelle, 

 

Thank you so much so the inputs.

I thought we could run the human simulation but not to get total timing as real for now,similarly like a robot.

It sounds like we have to use MTM-UAS or other time card method to correct the durings in PS, then we are able to get total timing as we expect in the report for the balancing.

 

Looking for the new release in future on this function without extra customization.

 

Best regards.

Parkman