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NX12.0.2 Measurement Commands Consolidation

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180130_measurement_consolidation_01.pngSixteen menu commands and over fifty options, all in one new Measure command!For the last couple of years we’ve been working on an exciting project. It’s not often that we tackle consolidating over fifteen command with over fifty options into one new command. But that’s the challenge we’ve taken on, and it’s been an exciting ride. We really hope you like this new direction and the new things you’ll be able to do now.

 

So how does it work?  There’s so much to show you!

 

1. Fundamental Philosophy Shift:

 

One quick note about the general philosophy behind how it works, and then I’ll demonstrate several details with a series of videos.

 

Historically, NX has had one command per type of measurement. (Measure Distance, Measure Angle, Measure Length, Measure Body, etc.) Within each command, we would prompt you to select specific things in a specific order – one vector and then two objects for a Projected Distance measurement, for instance.

 

With the new command, we’ve reversed the process. You’ll select things first – generally in any order – and then based on what you’ve selected, we’ll tell you anything (and everything) we know about that object or set of objects. This process ends up working really, really well for literally dozens of different kinds of measurements – including several new types that we enabled in the new command.

(view in My Videos)

 

2. Quick Information Tooltips:

 

Even without selecting anything, the new command will give you a bunch of basic measurement information about objects you mouse-over.

(view in My Videos)

 

3. Consolidating Selections:

 

The new command displays all of the possible measurements for selected objects, without you to choose different commands and re-select objects for each result.

(view in My Videos)

 

4. Keeping Simple Measurements Simple:

 

We've worked hard to keep those single-click and two-click quick measurements simple.

(view in My Videos)

 

 

5. New Associative Results For Body Measurements:

 

We've enabled more of properties of solid bodies (principal axes, inertial properties, etc.) to be saved as associative expressions.

(view in My Videos)

 

6. When To Use Object Sets:

 

Wondering about that "Object Set" selection up there?  It's great for measuring cumulative results (combine properties of several bodies or curve, for instance) or for measuring between sets of objects.

(view in My Videos)

 

7. When To Use the Point And Vector Constructors:

 

Wondering why we have those "Point" and "Vector" construction tools up there?  If you already have a point object or datum axis object, you can just select those with the "object" selector, of course, but the "Point" and "Vector" constructors are really useful if you need to construct a point or vector that doesn't already exist in the model.  They're also useful for some of the new measurement types, as you'll see below.

(view in My Videos)

 

8. Comparing the Old And New Projected Distance Workflows:

 

Just for fun, here's a comparison between the old and new methods for measuring projected distances. We think the new tool is much more flexible here, and help you "back up" less frequently.

(view in My Videos)

 

9. Multiple Types of Results From One Selection Set:

 

Sometimes a single selection set can result in more than one type of measurement -- and that's okay.  We'll let you choose the results you want to save -- and even let you come back and change your mind later.

(view in My Videos)

 

10. New Projected Distance Options:

 

We've added a really useful new way to measure projected distances that we hope you'll like.  This video describes the differences between the three algorithms now available.

(view in My Videos)

 

11. Saving Measurement Expressions, Annotations, And Geometry:

 

We recognize that users may or may not always want to save associative results.  But if you do, this is how to do it.  Saving the measurement will create an associative expression result, and you can optionally save an associative annotation and/or in some cases, save associative measurement geometry as well.

(view in My Videos)

 

12. Measuring the Local Thickness Of a Body:

 

This new measurement type allows you to choose a solid body and a point on the surface of that body to probe the local thickness at that location.  This one is super-useful for investigating parts that will be molded, cast, or 3D printed.

(view in My Videos)

 

13. Measuring a Distance Along a Curve:

 

The new tool enables fast and easy measurement of distances along curves and edges -- including some impressive automatic recognition of adjacent connected curves.

(view in My Videos)

14. How To Create Requirement Checks for Measurements:

 

If you like to use Requirement Checks with measurements to monitor the progress or compliance of a design, you'll do that right in-line with each measurement result now, out in the scene dialog.

(view in My Videos)

 

 

If you have more questions or would like to see a video on another measurement topic, feel free to drop me a note, either in a comment here or in a private email.  Thanks for your feedback so far, everyone! 

Taylor Anderson
NX Product Manager, Knowledge Reuse and NX Design
Tel: +1 (602) 441-0683
taylor.anderson@siemens.com
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Solution Partner Creator Solution Partner Creator
Solution Partner Creator

Hi

Taylor,

How to download the demo video and parts? In salescenter?

Enthusiast
Enthusiast

Great job Taylor.  Are the values from measurements still viewable in an information window?

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They are, Les. 

 

There's a very similar "Display in Information Window" option, very similar to the old tools, lurking down in the Settings group.  :-)

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stephen --

 

Sorry for the delay...  Drop me an email, and I can set you up.

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Hi Taylor, 

thanks for the great videos, they are really helpful. Your explanation and the examples are exceptionally good. The command has improved a lot and is really useful and quick.

 

Quick question: Can you create an associative point in the center of gravity of a solid body? The expression value is already here.

 

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@Sebastian5050 --

 

Quick answer...  Yes!  Check out the tail end of video #11.  :-)

 

All of the geometry creation is still there -- along with some new types.

 

Thanks!

Dreamer
Dreamer

Hi Taylor,

 

Ok, the measuring tool, I like it, but...how to measure a projected angle!?

 

Object-object-vector does not work!

 

Please, don't tell me I must project the curves to a plane first then measure the angle.

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Hello Taylor,

thanks für this very helpful post about the philosophy shift of the measure command.

Last week we came across the following difficulty: With the old measure command we were able to create temporary notes of dimensions, typically in orange/brown colour which would go away when using "Update" / F5.

With the new measure capability when we create annotated dimensions we get pink coloured annotations which won't go away using F5.

Can you please give us a hint on how to accomplish the former workflow of creating temporary annotations and removing them again from the display.

Thanks & best regards,

Udoc

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Hi Taylor, thanks for the helpful videos!

question:  why does the new measure results window go onto the current work layer?

we set up views before we release parts.  Each view will show different layers depending on what we want to show.  For example we might have our final solid on layer 1, so we would have a view that shows only layer 1.  Then we might have another view that shows the flat pattern, or a sketch used to create the solid.  We would have those items on another layer, layer 2 for example.

lets say your current work layer is layer 1.  If you enter the view that has the flat pattern or sketches and measure something you cannot see the results because the result pop up window goes on layer 1, since that’s your current work layer.  

Now I understand this purpose if you were creating geometry, but not measuring!?

when would there ever be a scenario when you would want to hide the results of someone trying to measure something?  My old version of nx wasn’t like this so it’s a new feature I’m curious what the purpose of that is.

we will have quite a few views each showing unique layers so people who are viewing models and taking measurements have to first enter a new view, then measure something only to find out the result pop up window isn’t visible, then go into that views settings to see what layers are visible in that view, then make one of those views the current work layer, then repeat the measurement, then repeat this process again for the next view and each view after that.

thanks

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My apologies for the delay in answering questions...  Been on the road a bit lately.  :-)

 

@Sbtlr --

 

The legacy Measure Angle function had the ability to non-associatively show the angle measure result projected onto the WCS three basic planes in the Information Window results:

 

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With the initial release of the redesigned Measure tool, we neglected to bring these projections forward.  And a surprising number of users have submitted ERs asking that we bring them back.  So we will.  :-)

 

We'll be doing this in an upcoming continuous release version.  Current plan (always subject to change, of course) is NX version 1899, at the end of this year.

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These results will of course also be reflected in the Information Window and in the Console:

 

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Thanks!

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@UMM --

 

So, this is a tricky one.  :-)

 

For many years, Measurements have had a unique method of displaying results...  They looked different from anything else in NX, they behaved differently than anything else in NX, and honestly, we got a lot of complaints about that.

 

With the new Measure tool, measurement annotations now leverage the exact same underlying code as PMI, with all of the same interactions.  Annotations are now selectable entities on which you can use the standard show and hide commands, and that's a pretty popular thing.  So at the moment, we really don't have plans to go back to the old style here.

 

The scene dialog with the immediate results is of course temporary, in the sense that it is only visible while the command is active.  These new annotations are certainly more persistent, by design.  But again, we think there's a lot of benefit to having them participate in the familiar show/hide interactions that you use for almost everything else in NX.

 

Does that help?

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@Mystic97z --

 

Great question.  :-)

 

The answer is actually related to my last answer to @UMM...

 

With measurement annotations now being a persistent selectable object, they need to reside somewhere.  :-) 

 

I'm a bit confused by the workflow you describe, though...  While in the Measure command, the scene dialog with all measurement results will appear in the graphics area every time, and is not dependent at all on the layer settings.  So there's really never a case where the user initiates a new measurement and can't see the results.  Similarly, the mouse-over quick results inside the Measure command are overlaid on the graphics area every time as well, completely independent of layers. 

 

So the only time that measurement annotations might not be visible is if a Measure were stored persistently as a feature.  And if they were created as a feature, then they would have to have been created while the target measurement geometry was visible, so I'm not sure how they're ending up on an invisible layer in the end.  :-)  Maybe you can help me understand that better?

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Hello Taylor,
thank you for your explanations on the temporary measurements display - yes, they really help a lot.

Cheers,

Udo