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Motorcycle Safety

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We had a really strange accident happen down the street two days ago. Two
motorcycles slammed into a pickup pulling a travel trailer across the
highway. One biker was killed instantly, the other severed a leg and is a
coma fighting for his life. A good Samaritan pulled the guy away from the
burning wreckage. How does that happen, texting each other as they rode?
Gary H. Lucas
"R.H. (Rick) Mason" wrote in message
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> Trust dog was uninjured ...
>
> "Gary H. Lucas" wrote in message
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>> In the news today, celebrity plastic surgeon killed while tweeting about
>> his dog while driving over a cliff. It's good when natural selection
>> works properly.
>>
>> Gary H. Lucas
>>
>> "Dave Ault" wrote in message
>> news:4c6c7d90$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> Well I have to admit to being wrong about the value of social media and
>>> so let
>>> me explain why.
>>>
>>> Being somewhat of an inquiring mind I decided to go and have a look at
>>> just what
>>> transpires with all these tweet thangs and so I arrive at Mark's tweets
>>> from a day
>>> or so ago. Nestled in the midst of these I find a powerfull but brief
>>> statement
>>> from him and it was "Fresh Coffee". Now when I saw him today at the
>>> Huntsville Summit
>>> I asked him about this. I made a mildly derogatory statement about
>>> people who talk
>>> about sitting on the privy and tweeting it to poke fun at him. But the
>>> aces alas
>>> were all in his hands as he smiled and informed me that the coffee tweet
>>> had generated
>>> a free coffee maker AND some coffee to boot.
>>>
>>> I now concede that the idea of tweets having value IS REAL.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> burhop wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Rick,
>>>>
>>>>I'm not saying you should use social media, I'm just asking how people
>>>>use it in our field. So you really can't argue with me :-)
>>>>
>>>>I know what you are saying about there being TOO MANY avenues of
>>>>communication. Its terribly inefficient and I hate that aspect but I
>>>>don't really have any control. The only thing people like me can do is
>>>>go where there customers are talking.
>>>>
>>>>Right now, the discussions on CAD are growing very quickly on twitter,
>>>>linkedin and CAD blogs so I'm very interested to know how CAD users are
>>>>adapting to this, why this is happening, etc.
>>>>
>>>>Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>burhop
>>>>
>>>>Mark Burhop
>>>>Simulation Product Manager
>>>>'Siemens PLM Blogger'
>>>>(http://blog.industrysoftware.automation.siemens.com/)
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>>>>View this thread:
>>>>http://bbsnotes.ugs.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=43094
>>>>
>>>

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Re: How do you use "social media"?

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Probably saw the truck thought it would stop as it should have, it
didn't and with the speed coupled with length of vehicle, no where to go
and no time to stop.
Ken Grundey
http://grundey.blogspot.com/

On 8/19/2010 8:52 PM, Gary H. Lucas wrote:
> We had a really strange accident happen down the street two days ago. Two
> motorcycles slammed into a pickup pulling a travel trailer across the
> highway. One biker was killed instantly, the other severed a leg and is a
> coma fighting for his life. A good Samaritan pulled the guy away from the
> burning wreckage. How does that happen, texting each other as they rode?
>
> Gary H. Lucas
>
> "R.H. (Rick) Mason" wrote in message
> news:4c6cb822$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>> Trust dog was uninjured ...
>>
>> "Gary H. Lucas" wrote in message
>> news:4c6c94b6@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>>> In the news today, celebrity plastic surgeon killed while tweeting about
>>> his dog while driving over a cliff. It's good when natural selection
>>> works properly.
>>>
>>> Gary H. Lucas
>>>
>>> "Dave Ault" wrote in message
>>> news:4c6c7d90$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>>>>
>>>> Well I have to admit to being wrong about the value of social media and
>>>> so let
>>>> me explain why.
>>>>
>>>> Being somewhat of an inquiring mind I decided to go and have a look at
>>>> just what
>>>> transpires with all these tweet thangs and so I arrive at Mark's tweets
>>>> from a day
>>>> or so ago. Nestled in the midst of these I find a powerfull but brief
>>>> statement
>>>> from him and it was "Fresh Coffee". Now when I saw him today at the
>>>> Huntsville Summit
>>>> I asked him about this. I made a mildly derogatory statement about
>>>> people who talk
>>>> about sitting on the privy and tweeting it to poke fun at him. But the
>>>> aces alas
>>>> were all in his hands as he smiled and informed me that the coffee tweet
>>>> had generated
>>>> a free coffee maker AND some coffee to boot.
>>>>
>>>> I now concede that the idea of tweets having value IS REAL.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> burhop wrote:
>>>>> Rick,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not saying you should use social media, I'm just asking how people
>>>>> use it in our field. So you really can't argue with me :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I know what you are saying about there being TOO MANY avenues of
>>>>> communication. Its terribly inefficient and I hate that aspect but I
>>>>> don't really have any control. The only thing people like me can do is
>>>>> go where there customers are talking.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, the discussions on CAD are growing very quickly on twitter,
>>>>> linkedin and CAD blogs so I'm very interested to know how CAD users are
>>>>> adapting to this, why this is happening, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> burhop
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Burhop
>>>>> Simulation Product Manager
>>>>> 'Siemens PLM Blogger'
>>>>> (http://blog.industrysoftware.automation.siemens.com/)
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> burhop's Profile:
>>>>> http://bbsnotes.ugs.com/vbulletin/member.php?userid=256745
>>>>> View this thread:
>>>>> http://bbsnotes.ugs.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=43094
>>>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>

Re: How do you use "social media"?

Siemens Master Siemens Master
Siemens Master
We had a really strange accident happen down the street two days ago. Two
motorcycles slammed into a pickup pulling a travel trailer across the
highway. One biker was killed instantly, the other severed a leg and is a
coma fighting for his life. A good Samaritan pulled the guy away from the
burning wreckage. How does that happen, texting each other as they rode?

I call this the Blue Angel effect (I used to teach motorcycle safety at the local college).
Riding by yourself is tiring; you have to be constantly scanning/alert. Riding in a group is safer; the folks in front do most of the work watching for problems. Not saying this is "right".
When you ride behind someone, you tend to trust they are looking out for you, and when they choose bad, by the time you know it, it's too late.
This is why when the Blue Angels are flying in formation, and the lead plane makes a bad decision and flies into the ground, the entire formation just follows...

Re: How do you use "social media"?

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Harrison is right and I'd like to add that two motorcycles riding side by
side are essentially the same as a single car. The reaction times are nearly
the same as in a car. If someone pulls out in front of you and "cuts you
off", the difference between cutting off one biker and cutting off both
bikers is milliseconds and only in rare instances will that make a
difference. If the bikers are riding in staggerd tandem which is preferred
for many safety reasons, the odds are slightly better, but not much. Both
are likely to go down. The difference between the guy who died at scene and
the guy in a coma has mostly to do with pure luck and the individual
reactions of the bikers. One may try to lay the bike down and get away and
the other might try to turn away upright.
--
John J. Bazaar
(jjb)
"spain" wrote in message
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> Gary H. Lucas;191040 Wrote:
>> We had a really strange accident happen down the street two days ago.
>> Two
>> motorcycles slammed into a pickup pulling a travel trailer across the
>> highway. One biker was killed instantly, the other severed a leg and
>> is a
>> coma fighting for his life. A good Samaritan pulled the guy away from
>> the
>> burning wreckage. How does that happen, texting each other as they
>> rode?
>>

>
> I call this the Blue Angel effect (I used to teach motorcycle safety at
> the local college).
>
> Riding by yourself is tiring; you have to be constantly scanning/alert.
> Riding in a group is safer; the folks in front do most of the work
> watching for problems. Not saying this is "right".
>
> When you ride behind someone, you tend to trust they are looking out
> for you, and when they choose bad, by the time you know it, it's too
> late.
>
> This is why when the Blue Angels are flying in formation, and the lead
> plane makes a bad decision and flies into the ground, the entire
> formation just follows...
>
>
> --
> spain
>
> Harrison Spain
> GTAC Moderator
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Re: How do you use "social media"?

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I believe that "staggered tandem" is the law in many states.
Ken Grundey
http://grundey.blogspot.com/

On 8/20/2010 2:31 PM, jjb wrote:
> Harrison is right and I'd like to add that two motorcycles riding side
> by side are essentially the same as a single car. The reaction times
> are nearly the same as in a car. If someone pulls out in front of you
> and "cuts you off", the difference between cutting off one biker and
> cutting off both bikers is milliseconds and only in rare instances
> will that make a difference. If the bikers are riding in staggerd
> tandem which is preferred for many safety reasons, the odds are
> slightly better, but not much. Both are likely to go down. The
> difference between the guy who died at scene and the guy in a coma has
> mostly to do with pure luck and the individual reactions of the
> bikers. One may try to lay the bike down and get away and the other
> might try to turn away upright.

Re: How do you use "social media"?

Siemens Master Siemens Master
Siemens Master
We should move the cycling discussion to "Misc Soapbox" :-).