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BLOCK DRAGING TO LIBRARY PROBLEMS


Ricky, after a relatively long hiatus, I've come back to SE to start using it for
my first project. All my use before was just training myself, setting up my preferences
and speed keys and creating some typical blocks for later use.
If you recall (See Nov 8, 08 V100 GLOBALLY AVAILABLE BLOCKS - RICKY), one of the
problems that I experienced during this learning phase was not being able to drag
a newly created blocks into the Library. You fixed my problem by directing me to
edit my registry. Well, the first time I opened up my file to start creating more
blocks, I reencountered the same problem. I reset my registry as before and verified
that my block dragging was fixed. Than I proceeded to reset all my preferences,
etc. and retried the block dragging. It stopped working again. I referenced back
to the above thread and tried resetting all my file location option entries. The
block dragging started working again.
I’ve only changed 2 of the default locations for templates and backups and located
these within MY DOCUMENTS folder. Could that be causing something that would affect
blocks. I’ve noticed that there is still a folder for the old V20 version left
in the folder which the default lists for backups (i.e., C:\Documents and Settings\Ron
Latour\Application Data\Unigraphics Solutions\Solid Edge\Version 100\SEBackup).
So I deleted it.
I’m not going to change the file location defaults back to my preferences until
you respond.
Thanks,
Ron
Ronald W Latour
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Re: BLOCK DRAGING TO LIBRARY PROBLEMS

Ron,
You are going to have to refresh my memory on this.
Was it a problem with dragging a block into the library window to the right
or dragging a block back into another draft file?
Sorry I can't remember more details. I have too many things going on.
Regardss,
Rick B.

Re: BLOCK DRAGING TO LIBRARY PROBLEMS


"Ricky Black" wrote:
>Ron,
>You are going to have to refresh my memory on this.
>
>Was it a problem with dragging a block into the library window to the right
>
>or dragging a block back into another draft file?
>
>Sorry I can't remember more details. I have too many things going on.
>
>Regardss,
>Rick B.
>
>

Ricky, it's about dragging a newly created block into the Library window. The cursor
shows the symbol correctly being dragged and the new block image goes with the cursor.
But when the library window opens and I let go of the mouse left button, the Symbol1.dft
doesn't appear. After resetting the File Locations Options, it works OK.
Let me share that it's a pain in the !!! to reset and than go back and recreate
all my preferences and speed keys. I've found it easier when I first capture these
using JING. But that don't help with the speed keys. If this problem continues
to haunt me, I'm going back to my old software. Please consider a way to save all
custom settings into a separate file/folder/? to make reconstruction easier.
Also, I like to use a slight modification of the AutoCad color scheme (black background).
But when I change the default colors, there is no option to name my new color scheme.
It just defaults to Custom. So there's no way to recover the changes. THis becomes
quite apparent when trying to reestablish preferences.
Thanks,
Ron
Ronald W Latour

Re: BLOCK DRAGING TO LIBRARY PROBLEMS

Ron,
One quick question. Do you want each block to be a separate file, or do you
want to create a single file that contains many blocks? A single file with
many blocks would be more useful as a block library. I prefer to use a
single file with many blocks. This way I can edit the blocks in a single
file. You access all of the blocks in this file by clicking on the file. The
blocks will show in the block window. Simply drag and drop the one you want
into your current file. This will also eliminate any problem you have with
trying to drag and drop into the Library window to create a new file. You
simply clock on the block you want to put into the library file. Copy the
block. Open the library file and paste the block into that file. Save the
library file. Now that block is available for reuse.
The window you are dropping into is much like windows explorer. Whatever
file path the window is pointing is where it will create the file when you
drop. The file will not be put into a predetermined file location. The term
'Library' may be misleading. It is simply a navigation window for your file
system.
Remember that the file name create will be 'Symbol?.dft', not the name of
the block.
Regards,
Rick B.

Re: BLOCK DRAGING TO LIBRARY PROBLEMS


Ricky, what I was trying to do is to set up a separated file for each block to avoid
having several files opened at one time so I could pick the block from the Library
when needed. But I jus tried what you suggested. It is what I had been doing in
my other CAD program. THis works ok but eliminates one of the advantages offered
by SE.
Apparently, you think that my problem is not a bug in the program but some idiosyncrasy
in my software/computer. I'll live with that.
Thanks,
Ron
"Ricky Black" wrote:
>Ron,
>One quick question. Do you want each block to be a separate file, or do you
>
>want to create a single file that contains many blocks? A single file with
>
>many blocks would be more useful as a block library. I prefer to use a
>single file with many blocks. This way I can edit the blocks in a single
>file. You access all of the blocks in this file by clicking on the file. The
>
>blocks will show in the block window. Simply drag and drop the one you want
>
>into your current file. This will also eliminate any problem you have with
>
>trying to drag and drop into the Library window to create a new file. You
>
>simply clock on the block you want to put into the library file. Copy the
>
>block. Open the library file and paste the block into that file. Save the
>
>library file. Now that block is available for reuse.
>
>The window you are dropping into is much like windows explorer. Whatever
>file path the window is pointing is where it will create the file when you
>
>drop. The file will not be put into a predetermined file location. The term
>
>'Library' may be misleading. It is simply a navigation window for your file
>
>system.
>
>Remember that the file name create will be 'Symbol?.dft', not the name of
>
>the block.
>
>Regards,
>Rick B.
>
>

Ronald W Latour

Re: BLOCK DRAGING TO LIBRARY PROBLEMS - MORE


Ricky, I've done a little playing with this problem and have been able to narrow
it down to changing the Options/File Locations/User Templates/ file location. THe
only other file location that I've modified is the SE Backup folder location. After
experiencing the problem again when changing both of these, and than hitting reset,
the only location that changes is the Template file. And after doing so, the drag
and drop starts to work ok.
I would bet this is a software issue and, if it is, maybe you don't want the option
to change it.
Ron

"Ronald W Latour" wrote:
>
>Ricky, what I was trying to do is to set up a separated file for each block
>to avoid
>having several files opened at one time so I could pick the block from the
>Library
>when needed. But I jus tried what you suggested. It is what I had been doing
>in
>my other CAD program. THis works ok but eliminates one of the advantages offered
>by SE.
>
>Apparently, you think that my problem is not a bug in the program but some
>idiosyncrasy
>in my software/computer. I'll live with that.
>
>Thanks,
>Ron
>
>"Ricky Black" wrote:
>>Ron,
>>One quick question. Do you want each block to be a separate file, or do you
>>
>>want to create a single file that contains many blocks? A single file with
>>
>>many blocks would be more useful as a block library. I prefer to use a
>>single file with many blocks. This way I can edit the blocks in a single

>
>>file. You access all of the blocks in this file by clicking on the file.

>The
>>
>>blocks will show in the block window. Simply drag and drop the one you want
>>
>>into your current file. This will also eliminate any problem you have with
>>
>>trying to drag and drop into the Library window to create a new file. You
>>
>>simply clock on the block you want to put into the library file. Copy the
>>
>>block. Open the library file and paste the block into that file. Save the
>>
>>library file. Now that block is available for reuse.
>>
>>The window you are dropping into is much like windows explorer. Whatever

>
>>file path the window is pointing is where it will create the file when you
>>
>>drop. The file will not be put into a predetermined file location. The term
>>
>>'Library' may be misleading. It is simply a navigation window for your file
>>
>>system.
>>
>>Remember that the file name create will be 'Symbol?.dft', not the name of
>>
>>the block.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Rick B.
>>
>>

>
>Ronald W Latour
Ronald W Latour

Re: BLOCK DRAGING TO LIBRARY PROBLEMS - MORE

Ron,
OK. I have an answer for the block drag and drop issue. When you customize
the template location, are you actually putting a template in that location
to use for new file creation? When a symbol file is created from drag and
drop of the block into the Library window, it must find a template file in
the location you specified.
Regards,
Rick B.

Re: BLOCK DRAGING TO LIBRARY PROBLEMS - MORE


Ricky, I'm not sure what to do with this info in light of the other problem I started
having. See the tread called MORE BLOCK PROBLEMS. I thing that I understand what
you are saying. I feel confident that I know how to avoid the drag/drop problem.

But this other problem is a mystery since it seems to persist even after I've reset
back to defaults via the Registry Editor.
In reviewing what I wrote in MORE BLOCK PROBLEMS, I need to make some corrections
to clarify what I want to describe. So go check that tread and let me know. Maybe
I need to download again.
Thanks
Ron


"Ricky Black" wrote:
>Ron,
>OK. I have an answer for the block drag and drop issue. When you customize
>
>the template location, are you actually putting a template in that location
>
>to use for new file creation? When a symbol file is created from drag and
>
>drop of the block into the Library window, it must find a template file in
>
>the location you specified.
>
>Regards,
>Rick B.
>
>

Ronald W Latour