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Can ANYONE explain to me what is going on with my drawings it still do the same thing over and over!


You Look at the top right corner you will see .750"x250" Square that about half way
outside the larger square 25.50 x14.50" box this happen when I change the (any)distance
between the two 3.60"x3.60" squares at right corner
The .75"x.25" square is being pushed outside the larger square 25.50x14.50
What is going on I am getting frusted with this problem!
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Re: Can ANYONE explain to me what is going on with my drawings it still do the same thing over and over!

The small rectangle and 2 larger rectangles are constrained together
horizontally, but as a set, they are not constrained to anything else. This
means that both the left and right sets can slide back and forth in the
x-axis. This can be seen by selecting any element in either set and then
dragging one of the resulting object handles in the X direction. Either
constrain the two inner rectangles to the center point of the envelope or
the two smaller rectangles to the left/right sides of the envelope.
--
Ken
http://grundey.blogspot.com

"Dan Donna" wrote in message
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>
> You Look at the top right corner you will see .750"x250" Square that about
> half way
> outside the larger square 25.50 x14.50" box this happen when I change the
> (any)distance
>
> between the two 3.60"x3.60" squares at right corner
> The .75"x.25" square is being pushed outside the larger square 25.50x14.50
> What is going on I am getting frusted with this problem!
>

Re: Can ANYONE explain to me what is going on with my drawings it still do the same thing over and over!

And I wanted to add that there are several "unconstrained" elements in this model. There are a couple of tools to help you identify remaining degrees of freedom.
a.. One that was already mentioned was to use the mouse and attempt move the elements/handles.
b.. Under the Tools ribbon (ST) there is a Relationship Assistant. Select the geometry and then click the Show Variability button which will show a ghost image of the geometry moved to give you an idea how it will misbehave. Clicking the button multiple times will show a different ghost image each time.
a.. A helpful tool in the 3D environments sketch tools (full version of Solid Edge) is a Relationship Colors command which will change the color of the elements as they become fully constrained. Unfortunately it doesn't exist in the 2D Draft environment.
--
Ken
http://grundey.blogspot.com

"PellaKen" wrote in message news:49332193$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
> The small rectangle and 2 larger rectangles are constrained together
> horizontally, but as a set, they are not constrained to anything else. This
> means that both the left and right sets can slide back and forth in the
> x-axis. This can be seen by selecting any element in either set and then
> dragging one of the resulting object handles in the X direction. Either
> constrain the two inner rectangles to the center point of the envelope or
> the two smaller rectangles to the left/right sides of the envelope.
>
> --
> Ken
> http://grundey.blogspot.com
>
>
> "Dan Donna" wrote in message
> news:4932bf07@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>>
>> You Look at the top right corner you will see .750"x250" Square that about
>> half way
>> outside the larger square 25.50 x14.50" box this happen when I change the
>> (any)distance
>>
>> between the two 3.60"x3.60" squares at right corner
>> The .75"x.25" square is being pushed outside the larger square 25.50x14.50
>> What is going on I am getting frusted with this problem!
>>

>

Re: Can ANYONE explain to me what is going on with my drawings it still do the same thing over and over!


I did not have any problems with Verison 20.
"PellaKen" wrote:
>The small rectangle and 2 larger rectangles are constrained together
>horizontally, but as a set, they are not constrained to anything else. This
>
>means that both the left and right sets can slide back and forth in the
>x-axis. This can be seen by selecting any element in either set and then
>
>dragging one of the resulting object handles in the X direction. Either
>constrain the two inner rectangles to the center point of the envelope or
>
>the two smaller rectangles to the left/right sides of the envelope.
>
>--
>Ken
>http://grundey.blogspot.com
>
>
>"Dan Donna" wrote in message
>news:4932bf07@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>>
>> You Look at the top right corner you will see .750"x250" Square that about

>
>> half way
>> outside the larger square 25.50 x14.50" box this happen when I change the

>
>> (any)distance
>>
>> between the two 3.60"x3.60" squares at right corner
>> The .75"x.25" square is being pushed outside the larger square 25.50x14.50
>> What is going on I am getting frusted with this problem!
>>

>

Re: Can ANYONE explain to me what is going on with my drawings it still do the same thing over and over!

Dan,
Are you wanting the left side line of the small rectangles to always be
aligned with the left side line of the larger rectangle?
If this is the case, add a colinear constraint or a connect constraint
between the right side line of the large rectangle and the right side line
of the smaller rectangle. This will tie the two together. You currently have
the width of the small rectangle defined by a dimension. You are changing a
dimension which repositions the left side of the small rectangle. The
rectangle moves because the right hand side is free to move.
Regards,
Rick B.

Re: Can ANYONE explain to me what is going on with my drawings it still do the same thing over and over!


"Ricky Black" wrote:
>Dan,
>Are you wanting the left side line of the small rectangles to always be
>aligned with the left side line of the larger rectangle?
>
>If this is the case, add a colinear constraint or a connect constraint
>between the right side line of the large rectangle and the right side line
>
>of the smaller rectangle. This will tie the two together. You currently have
>
>the width of the small rectangle defined by a dimension. You are changing
>a
>dimension which repositions the left side of the small rectangle. The
>rectangle moves because the right hand side is free to move.
>
>Regards,
>Rick B.
>
>

I had No problems the first few days of using the software
then these problems started occur.