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Hidden Text


How do you get to the hidden text to relocate it? I'm referring to the author, title,
part number and revision level text which are automatically placed for you. I want
to relocate them but hate having to modify the background sheet every time I open
a new size sheet. I tried finding it in the normal.dft template but was unsuccessfull.
Ed
8 REPLIES

Re: Hidden Text

Ed,
It sounds like you know where the objects are, which is on the background
sheet. You just want to make the change one time so that it is available for
all draft files you create.
The templates are in "C:\Program Files\Solid Edge 2D Drafting V20\Template"
You should see the "normal.dft" file there. There is also a subdirectory
called "more". This is a place where you can add your own customized
templates.
Create a new draft file and make the modifications you want for your
template.
You now have a couple of options:
1. You can now save the file to the template directory above and name the
file "normal.dft". This will overwrite the default template file.
2. You can also, and this is what I suggest, save the file to the "more" sub
directory under the template directory. Give the file a valid name you would
use for your template. You can create as many customized templates this way
as you need. When you create a new draft file, click on the "more"tab in the
File New dialog. You will see your custom templates. The draft file will be
based on your template selected.
Regards,
Rick B.

Re: Hidden Text


Rick,
I must not have explained what I meant very well. I'm probably not using the poper
terminology so please bear with me. I have already done what you are suggesting
below. My only problem is that I don't know how to relocate the text that is placed
automatically such as:
1. the author is placed next to the "DRAWN." box
2. the title is placed in the "TITLE" box
3. the drawing number is placed in the "DWG NO" box
4. the revision level is placed in the "REV" box
I know how to populate these in the "File Properties" diaglog. It's when the fields
are added to the drawing automatically that I can't seem to control where they are
placed. I want to know how to control the placement of the above mentioned fields
so the are located in the place of my chosing on the drawing. Does this make any
sense to you?
Thanks,
Ed
"Ricky Black" wrote:
>Ed,
>It sounds like you know where the objects are, which is on the background
>
>sheet. You just want to make the change one time so that it is available for
>
>all draft files you create.
>
>The templates are in "C:\Program Files\Solid Edge 2D Drafting V20\Template"
>
>You should see the "normal.dft" file there. There is also a subdirectory
>called "more". This is a place where you can add your own customized
>templates.
>
>Create a new draft file and make the modifications you want for your
>template.
>
>You now have a couple of options:
>1. You can now save the file to the template directory above and name the
>
>file "normal.dft". This will overwrite the default template file.
>2. You can also, and this is what I suggest, save the file to the "more" sub
>
>directory under the template directory. Give the file a valid name you would
>
>use for your template. You can create as many customized templates this way
>
>as you need. When you create a new draft file, click on the "more"tab in the
>
>File New dialog. You will see your custom templates. The draft file will be
>
>based on your template selected.
>
>Regards,
>Rick B.
>
>

Re: Hidden Text

Ed,
Maybe I'm not understanding the issue but you should be able to go to the
background sheet and just move the text to whereever you want. Once you do
so make sure you file over the template file as Ricky described.
Is there some reason you can't move this text?
David
"Ed Kadlec" wrote in message
news:47bf133a$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>
> Rick,
>
> I must not have explained what I meant very well. I'm probably not using
> the poper
> terminology so please bear with me. I have already done what you are
> suggesting
> below. My only problem is that I don't know how to relocate the text that
> is placed
> automatically such as:
>
> 1. the author is placed next to the "DRAWN." box
> 2. the title is placed in the "TITLE" box
> 3. the drawing number is placed in the "DWG NO" box
> 4. the revision level is placed in the "REV" box
>
> I know how to populate these in the "File Properties" diaglog. It's when
> the fields
> are added to the drawing automatically that I can't seem to control where
> they are
> placed. I want to know how to control the placement of the above mentioned
> fields
> so the are located in the place of my chosing on the drawing. Does this
> make any
> sense to you?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
> "Ricky Black" wrote:
>>Ed,
>>It sounds like you know where the objects are, which is on the background
>>
>>sheet. You just want to make the change one time so that it is available
>>for
>>
>>all draft files you create.
>>
>>The templates are in "C:\Program Files\Solid Edge 2D Drafting
>>V20\Template"
>>
>>You should see the "normal.dft" file there. There is also a subdirectory
>>called "more". This is a place where you can add your own customized
>>templates.
>>
>>Create a new draft file and make the modifications you want for your
>>template.
>>
>>You now have a couple of options:
>>1. You can now save the file to the template directory above and name the
>>
>>file "normal.dft". This will overwrite the default template file.
>>2. You can also, and this is what I suggest, save the file to the "more"
>>sub
>>
>>directory under the template directory. Give the file a valid name you
>>would
>>
>>use for your template. You can create as many customized templates this
>>way
>>
>>as you need. When you create a new draft file, click on the "more"tab in
>>the
>>
>>File New dialog. You will see your custom templates. The draft file will
>>be
>>
>>based on your template selected.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Rick B.
>>
>>

>

Re: Hidden Text


David,
Thanks for the attempt at helping but I guess I'm still not explaining the problem
I am having in positioning the specific text I am having problems with. This will
be my last attempt and then I will give up.
I know how to locate the text that shows up on the background sheet and I have done
that. The problem I am having is with the text that does not show up on the background
sheet but seems to be placed automatically. They are, as stated earlier:
The author, title, drawing number and revision level. They do not show up on the
background sheet until those fields are populated in the "File Properties" dialog.
Then I can go to the background sheet and relocate them where I want them. There
has to be something that tells the program where to locate the above fields on the
drawing and that is what I'm trying to get help on. I don't want to have to go to
the background sheet every time I start a new drawing and move that text where I
want it. Any clearer? I could send a before and after PDF file showing what I am
talking about if that would help.
Thanks,
Ed
"David Rieschick" wrote:
>Ed,
>
>Maybe I'm not understanding the issue but you should be able to go to the
>
>background sheet and just move the text to whereever you want. Once you do
>
>so make sure you file over the template file as Ricky described.
>
>Is there some reason you can't move this text?
>
>David
>
>"Ed Kadlec" wrote in message
>news:47bf133a$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> I must not have explained what I meant very well. I'm probably not using

>
>> the poper
>> terminology so please bear with me. I have already done what you are
>> suggesting
>> below. My only problem is that I don't know how to relocate the text that

>
>> is placed
>> automatically such as:
>>
>> 1. the author is placed next to the "DRAWN." box
>> 2. the title is placed in the "TITLE" box
>> 3. the drawing number is placed in the "DWG NO" box
>> 4. the revision level is placed in the "REV" box
>>
>> I know how to populate these in the "File Properties" diaglog. It's when

>
>> the fields
>> are added to the drawing automatically that I can't seem to control where

>
>> they are
>> placed. I want to know how to control the placement of the above mentioned

>
>> fields
>> so the are located in the place of my chosing on the drawing. Does this

>
>> make any
>> sense to you?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ed
>>
>> "Ricky Black" wrote:
>>>Ed,
>>>It sounds like you know where the objects are, which is on the background
>>>
>>>sheet. You just want to make the change one time so that it is available

>
>>>for
>>>
>>>all draft files you create.
>>>
>>>The templates are in "C:\Program Files\Solid Edge 2D Drafting
>>>V20\Template"
>>>
>>>You should see the "normal.dft" file there. There is also a subdirectory
>>>called "more". This is a place where you can add your own customized
>>>templates.
>>>
>>>Create a new draft file and make the modifications you want for your
>>>template.
>>>
>>>You now have a couple of options:
>>>1. You can now save the file to the template directory above and name the
>>>
>>>file "normal.dft". This will overwrite the default template file.
>>>2. You can also, and this is what I suggest, save the file to the "more"

>
>>>sub
>>>
>>>directory under the template directory. Give the file a valid name you
>>>would
>>>
>>>use for your template. You can create as many customized templates this

>
>>>way
>>>
>>>as you need. When you create a new draft file, click on the "more"tab in

>
>>>the
>>>
>>>File New dialog. You will see your custom templates. The draft file will

>
>>>be
>>>
>>>based on your template selected.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Rick B.
>>>
>>>

>>
>
>

Re: Hidden Text

Ed,
I think I understand your problem. The property text is placed as a
Callout which will have three justifications. It will stay were you placed
it relative to the justification point, so it is imperative that the correct
justification is chosen for the area that the text will be placed in. As
you found out, you cannot see the Callout till the property populates it, so
you must open your template, assign text to the property fields that
populate the callouts, position them where you want them (make sure the
justification is set such that they will stay where you want them), remove
the text from the properties, and save the template.
--
PellaKen
http://grundey.blogspot.com
"Ed Kadlec" wrote in message
news:47c09fd6$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>
> David,
>
> Thanks for the attempt at helping but I guess I'm still not explaining the
> problem
> I am having in positioning the specific text I am having problems with.
> This will
> be my last attempt and then I will give up.
> I know how to locate the text that shows up on the background sheet and I
> have done
> that. The problem I am having is with the text that does not show up on
> the background
> sheet but seems to be placed automatically. They are, as stated earlier:
> The author, title, drawing number and revision level. They do not show up
> on the
> background sheet until those fields are populated in the "File Properties"
> dialog.
> Then I can go to the background sheet and relocate them where I want them.
> There
> has to be something that tells the program where to locate the above
> fields on the
> drawing and that is what I'm trying to get help on. I don't want to have
> to go to
> the background sheet every time I start a new drawing and move that text
> where I
> want it. Any clearer? I could send a before and after PDF file showing
> what I am
> talking about if that would help.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
> "David Rieschick" wrote:
>>Ed,
>>
>>Maybe I'm not understanding the issue but you should be able to go to the
>>
>>background sheet and just move the text to whereever you want. Once you
>>do
>>
>>so make sure you file over the template file as Ricky described.
>>
>>Is there some reason you can't move this text?
>>
>>David
>>
>>"Ed Kadlec" wrote in message
>>news:47bf133a$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>>>
>>> Rick,
>>>
>>> I must not have explained what I meant very well. I'm probably not using

>>
>>> the poper
>>> terminology so please bear with me. I have already done what you are
>>> suggesting
>>> below. My only problem is that I don't know how to relocate the text
>>> that

>>
>>> is placed
>>> automatically such as:
>>>
>>> 1. the author is placed next to the "DRAWN." box
>>> 2. the title is placed in the "TITLE" box
>>> 3. the drawing number is placed in the "DWG NO" box
>>> 4. the revision level is placed in the "REV" box
>>>
>>> I know how to populate these in the "File Properties" diaglog. It's when

>>
>>> the fields
>>> are added to the drawing automatically that I can't seem to control
>>> where

>>
>>> they are
>>> placed. I want to know how to control the placement of the above
>>> mentioned

>>
>>> fields
>>> so the are located in the place of my chosing on the drawing. Does this

>>
>>> make any
>>> sense to you?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> "Ricky Black" wrote:
>>>>Ed,
>>>>It sounds like you know where the objects are, which is on the
>>>>background
>>>>
>>>>sheet. You just want to make the change one time so that it is available

>>
>>>>for
>>>>
>>>>all draft files you create.
>>>>
>>>>The templates are in "C:\Program Files\Solid Edge 2D Drafting
>>>>V20\Template"
>>>>
>>>>You should see the "normal.dft" file there. There is also a subdirectory
>>>>called "more". This is a place where you can add your own customized
>>>>templates.
>>>>
>>>>Create a new draft file and make the modifications you want for your
>>>>template.
>>>>
>>>>You now have a couple of options:
>>>>1. You can now save the file to the template directory above and name
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>file "normal.dft". This will overwrite the default template file.
>>>>2. You can also, and this is what I suggest, save the file to the "more"

>>
>>>>sub
>>>>
>>>>directory under the template directory. Give the file a valid name you
>>>>would
>>>>
>>>>use for your template. You can create as many customized templates this

>>
>>>>way
>>>>
>>>>as you need. When you create a new draft file, click on the "more"tab in

>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>File New dialog. You will see your custom templates. The draft file will

>>
>>>>be
>>>>
>>>>based on your template selected.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Rick B.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>

Re: Hidden Text


Ken,
Thank you very much! That did it. That is exactly what I was looking for.
Ed
"Ken Grundey" wrote:
>Ed,
> I think I understand your problem. The property text is placed as a
>Callout which will have three justifications. It will stay were you placed
>
>it relative to the justification point, so it is imperative that the correct
>
>justification is chosen for the area that the text will be placed in. As
>
>you found out, you cannot see the Callout till the property populates it,
>so
>you must open your template, assign text to the property fields that
>populate the callouts, position them where you want them (make sure the
>justification is set such that they will stay where you want them), remove
>
>the text from the properties, and save the template.
>
>--
>PellaKen
>http://grundey.blogspot.com

Re: Hidden Text

Ed,
I can see now why we're having a hard time understanding each other. I have
updated my templates so that each of the fields you are referring to have a
default value already entered into File Properties. For example, my
template already has "A" as the revision level. If I want to reposition any
of these callouts I just open my template, move them to the new location and
resave the template.
Apparently you have never entered default values into your template. Thus,
you have nothing to reposition. Open your template files, popuate these
filed with a default value, reposition as necessary and resave.
David
"Ed Kadlec" wrote in message
news:47c09fd6$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>
> David,
>
> Thanks for the attempt at helping but I guess I'm still not explaining the
> problem
> I am having in positioning the specific text I am having problems with.
> This will
> be my last attempt and then I will give up.
> I know how to locate the text that shows up on the background sheet and I
> have done
> that. The problem I am having is with the text that does not show up on
> the background
> sheet but seems to be placed automatically. They are, as stated earlier:
> The author, title, drawing number and revision level. They do not show up
> on the
> background sheet until those fields are populated in the "File Properties"
> dialog.
> Then I can go to the background sheet and relocate them where I want them.
> There
> has to be something that tells the program where to locate the above
> fields on the
> drawing and that is what I'm trying to get help on. I don't want to have
> to go to
> the background sheet every time I start a new drawing and move that text
> where I
> want it. Any clearer? I could send a before and after PDF file showing
> what I am
> talking about if that would help.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
> "David Rieschick" wrote:
>>Ed,
>>
>>Maybe I'm not understanding the issue but you should be able to go to the
>>
>>background sheet and just move the text to whereever you want. Once you
>>do
>>
>>so make sure you file over the template file as Ricky described.
>>
>>Is there some reason you can't move this text?
>>
>>David
>>
>>"Ed Kadlec" wrote in message
>>news:47bf133a$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>>>
>>> Rick,
>>>
>>> I must not have explained what I meant very well. I'm probably not using

>>
>>> the poper
>>> terminology so please bear with me. I have already done what you are
>>> suggesting
>>> below. My only problem is that I don't know how to relocate the text
>>> that

>>
>>> is placed
>>> automatically such as:
>>>
>>> 1. the author is placed next to the "DRAWN." box
>>> 2. the title is placed in the "TITLE" box
>>> 3. the drawing number is placed in the "DWG NO" box
>>> 4. the revision level is placed in the "REV" box
>>>
>>> I know how to populate these in the "File Properties" diaglog. It's when

>>
>>> the fields
>>> are added to the drawing automatically that I can't seem to control
>>> where

>>
>>> they are
>>> placed. I want to know how to control the placement of the above
>>> mentioned

>>
>>> fields
>>> so the are located in the place of my chosing on the drawing. Does this

>>
>>> make any
>>> sense to you?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> "Ricky Black" wrote:
>>>>Ed,
>>>>It sounds like you know where the objects are, which is on the
>>>>background
>>>>
>>>>sheet. You just want to make the change one time so that it is available

>>
>>>>for
>>>>
>>>>all draft files you create.
>>>>
>>>>The templates are in "C:\Program Files\Solid Edge 2D Drafting
>>>>V20\Template"
>>>>
>>>>You should see the "normal.dft" file there. There is also a subdirectory
>>>>called "more". This is a place where you can add your own customized
>>>>templates.
>>>>
>>>>Create a new draft file and make the modifications you want for your
>>>>template.
>>>>
>>>>You now have a couple of options:
>>>>1. You can now save the file to the template directory above and name
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>file "normal.dft". This will overwrite the default template file.
>>>>2. You can also, and this is what I suggest, save the file to the "more"

>>
>>>>sub
>>>>
>>>>directory under the template directory. Give the file a valid name you
>>>>would
>>>>
>>>>use for your template. You can create as many customized templates this

>>
>>>>way
>>>>
>>>>as you need. When you create a new draft file, click on the "more"tab in

>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>File New dialog. You will see your custom templates. The draft file will

>>
>>>>be
>>>>
>>>>based on your template selected.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Rick B.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>

Re: Hidden Text


David,
That explains the misunderstanding for sure. It now makes sense to me. Ken figured
out what I was referring to and straigtened me out. Thanks for your help.
Ed
"David Rieschick" wrote:
>Ed,
>
>I can see now why we're having a hard time understanding each other. I have
>
>updated my templates so that each of the fields you are referring to have
>a
>default value already entered into File Properties. For example, my
>template already has "A" as the revision level. If I want to reposition any
>
>of these callouts I just open my template, move them to the new location and
>
>resave the template.
>
>Apparently you have never entered default values into your template. Thus,
>
>you have nothing to reposition. Open your template files, popuate these
>filed with a default value, reposition as necessary and resave.
>
>David