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Messed up blocks or groups?


I have a 1.1MB file which can be accessed here:
http://www.mistakeproofing.net/transfer/N202SH_POWER_DISTRIBUTION-02.dft
This is a drawing that was originally developed using Intellicad, then was translated
for me. I have tried to bring in some components and seemed to have messed things
up.
For instance, there are a couple of boxes that I am trying to delete in the lower
right portion of the drawing. I try and select them but nothing happens - or the
whole drawing becomes selected. I cannot delete them.
Are these blocks or groups, or what? How do I restore this drawing to a more user
friendly state?
Thanks.
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Re: Messed up blocks or groups?

Sam,
They are blocks. Are yo trying to fence select or just locate them
individually? If you run the Select Tool command and cannot place your
cursor over them to select them, then is sounds like you have Blocks
disabled in the Select Options. Run the Select Tool command. Click on the
Select Options button. It will be the first button on the Select Tool Ribbon
Bar. In the Select Options dialog make sure that All Layers is selected and
that the Blocks check box is checked. Click OK to close the dialog. You
should be able to click on the geometry of one of the blocks to select it.
The blocks are a bit strange. They all seem to include a comon origin in the
definition of the block. All the blocks overlap. Without the DXF or DWG file
I cannot determine if this happened when the block was written out from
Intellicad or if it happened when the file was opened with Solid Edge.
If you are trying to fence select the blocks, you must set "Inside and
Overlap" in the Fence Filter on the Select Tool ribbon bar. When you do this
you will see many blocks locate because of the block origin issue.
Regards,
Rick B.

Re: Messed up blocks or groups?


Rick, I tried your suggestion, to no avail.
Yes, I am trying to fence select the blocks. I see what you mean by the origin.
If I select"Inside and Outside" overlap it brings in other components that I don't
want to modify.
For comparison, I uploaded the original .dwg file that I used as a basis for my
drawing:
http://www.mistakeproofing.net/transfer/Z19RB_A.dwg It seems to work just fine.
I have wasted enough time trying to fix what I hath wrought, so I will just start
over with the .dwg file. I just wish I knew what I did so I don't repeat it.
Thanks.
Sam
"Rick B." wrote:
>Sam,
>They are blocks. Are yo trying to fence select or just locate them
>individually? If you run the Select Tool command and cannot place your
>cursor over them to select them, then is sounds like you have Blocks
>disabled in the Select Options. Run the Select Tool command. Click on the
>
>Select Options button. It will be the first button on the Select Tool Ribbon
>
>Bar. In the Select Options dialog make sure that All Layers is selected and
>
>that the Blocks check box is checked. Click OK to close the dialog. You
>should be able to click on the geometry of one of the blocks to select it.
>
>The blocks are a bit strange. They all seem to include a comon origin in the
>
>definition of the block. All the blocks overlap. Without the DXF or DWG file
>
>I cannot determine if this happened when the block was written out from
>Intellicad or if it happened when the file was opened with Solid Edge.
>
>If you are trying to fence select the blocks, you must set "Inside and
>Overlap" in the Fence Filter on the Select Tool ribbon bar. When you do this
>
>you will see many blocks locate because of the block origin issue.
>
>Regards,
>Rick B.
>
>

Re: Messed up blocks or groups?

Sam,
I am confused by the two files. When I open the DWG file in AutoCAD and in
Solid Edge I do not see the problem. Also there is much less geometry than
what is in the original Draft file that you posted. The problem is the
additional blocks that are in the original Draft file (SE1, SE2). These
blocks are defined with an origin that is far away from the geometry in the
block. The origin of a block is included in the range (size) of the block.
This is why the highlighted border is so large when they are selected.
How were these blocks created? They are not in the original DWG file and are
not in the Draft file that I create by opening the file.
Regards,
Rick B.