Questions from a new user...

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I know I am late to the game, but just started using SE 2d and have a couple of questions.

Is there a break-line command for use with objects too long to show sufficient detail. i.e. cutting a part to bring more detail to end sections while still showing correct dimensions like AC's dimjogline command.

I am not seeing how the split command can be used in this way... speaking of the split command... would someone care to expound on its use and capabilities. I found very little info on the split command in the help file, but it seems to have much more capability than what is detailed in the help screen. Any takers?

Also, I have done a few drawings where I select smart dimension and it will pull the dimension line off of the part without showing a dimension, just a center mark? Do I have something toggled off? This one baffles me.. what need is a dimension line without a measure attached?

Thanks, Matt
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Re: Questions from a new user...

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Can someone please give me an answer?

I think I have figured out that after changing the scale in the 2d Model that measurements do not show on the dimensions... I don't know why that is, but after I make a drawing (which is larger than the screen) and hit the fit to screen button.. dimensions no longer show up... just a line with center mark.

Anyone know why this is doing this?

Thanks,
Matt

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Hi new user,

my guess is that your parts are bigger than Solid Edge anticipated (+1000mm). Dimensions have a standard text size, draw something small (a 50x50mm square) and you probably see the dimension.

Now change the text size in the dimension style you're using to something that's right for you. Place all dimensions on the auto-hide layer

After you've made the part scale 1:1 in the 2d-model environment, bring views to the working sheet (if you're familir with autocad, these are the 'model space and paper space' of Solid Edge).

Then use the 'add break lines' command in the quickmenu (right mouse button on the view).

I think overall you're trying hard to adopt the parametric way of life. Dimensions actually drive the 'geometry' in Solid Edge. So draw a quick setup, then add the dimensions to make it right.

IJsbrand Schipperus

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Your first question is about creating a broken view. A briken view allows you to bring the ends of a part like a shaft closer together. Your best bet is to place your geometry in 2D Model. then place 2D Model drawing views of the 2D geometry on the working sheet (Sheet 1). The drawing view may extend beyond the edges of the sheet. Right mouse click on the 2D Model view and click on 'Add Break Lines'. Specify the area of the 2D Model view to cut away. It brings the ends together. Place Distance Between dimensions for the distances between the two ends of the part.

Split simply splits geometry into multiple pieces.

Can you post an image explaining the dimension problem?

Regards,
Rick B.

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Rick,
I tried what you outlined below and it did not bring the lines together. Any ideas
why this didn't work for me? See attached image.
Thanks,
Ed
ricky.black@siemens.com
wrote:
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>Your first question is about creating a broken view. A briken view
>allows you to bring the ends of a part like a shaft closer together.
>Your best bet is to place your geometry in 2D Model. then place 2D Model
>drawing views of the 2D geometry on the working sheet (Sheet 1). The
>drawing view may extend beyond the edges of the sheet. Right mouse click
>on the 2D Model view and click on 'Add Break Lines'. Specify the area of
>the 2D Model view to cut away. It brings the ends together. Place
>Distance Between dimensions for the distances between the two ends of
>the part.
>
>Split simply splits geometry into multiple pieces.
>
>Can you post an image explaining the dimension problem?
>
>Regards,
>Rick B.


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Ed,
When you are adding Break lines to a Drawing View, you add them in pairs.
The zig-zag lines are between the pairs.
The Add Break Lines Command has a Finish button you press to finish adding
the break lines.
The Finish button will also bring the ends closer together. This puts the
drawing view in the broken state.
What you are seeing is the drawing view with the break lines added and in
the unbroken state.
Click on the drawing view, not the break lines.
At the bottom of Edge Bar, Edit Definition for the drawing view, there is a
button to break the view.
This button toggles the view between broken and unbroken.
Regards,
Rick B.

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Rick,
Thanks for straightening me out on this. I didn't even see the "Finish" button when
I placed the break lines. I've been looking for this feature in Solid Edge for awhile
and could never find how to add break lines so I was faking it to make it look like
break lines. I wonder what other neat features I'm unaware of in Solid Edge. ;^)
Ed
"Ricky Black" wrote:
>Ed,
>When you are adding Break lines to a Drawing View, you add them in pairs.
>The zig-zag lines are between the pairs.
>The Add Break Lines Command has a Finish button you press to finish adding
>
>the break lines.
>The Finish button will also bring the ends closer together. This puts the
>
>drawing view in the broken state.
>What you are seeing is the drawing view with the break lines added and in
>
>the unbroken state.
>Click on the drawing view, not the break lines.
>At the bottom of Edge Bar, Edit Definition for the drawing view, there is
>a
>button to break the view.
>This button toggles the view between broken and unbroken.
>
>Regards,
>Rick B.
>
>


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Rick,
I've been playing around with the break line feature and I was wondering if it is
possible to change the properties of the break lines after they have been placed?
I've tried with no success. I click on the break lines to highlight them and the
"Edit Definition" section is blank. I tried right clicking on the highlighted break
lines and nothing. It seems like I have to make sure all of the settings for the
break lines are set the way I want them before I place them since there appears
to be no way of editing the break lines after placing. Is this correct or am I doing
something incorrectly, again.
Thanks,
Ed
"Ricky Black" wrote:
>Ed,
>When you are adding Break lines to a Drawing View, you add them in pairs.
>The zig-zag lines are between the pairs.
>The Add Break Lines Command has a Finish button you press to finish adding
>
>the break lines.
>The Finish button will also bring the ends closer together. This puts the
>
>drawing view in the broken state.
>What you are seeing is the drawing view with the break lines added and in
>
>the unbroken state.
>Click on the drawing view, not the break lines.
>At the bottom of Edge Bar, Edit Definition for the drawing view, there is
>a
>button to break the view.
>This button toggles the view between broken and unbroken.
>
>Regards,
>Rick B.
>
>


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Ed,
Once you break the view the break lines become part of the view.
Unbreak the view. this does not remove the break lines.
Now with the view unbroken you can click on the break lines and move them or
change their properties.
Once you are finished changing the break lines, break the view again.
Regards,
Rick B.

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"Ricky Black" wrote:
>Ed,
>Once you break the view the break lines become part of the view.
>Unbreak the view. this does not remove the break lines.
>Now with the view unbroken you can click on the break lines and move them
>or
>change their properties.
>Once you are finished changing the break lines, break the view again.
>
>Regards,
>Rick B.
>
>

I'm not following this thread. What the heck is a Break Line? Is this a function
that is not available within the 2D program?
Thanks,
Ron
Ronald W Latour