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SE2D to ACAD translation problem


Hello;
I'm a new SE2D user. Had experience with SEV14 a few years back so familiar with
the tool. In my new position, we mainly work with Architectural/Structural drawings
so I think 2D will suffice for now.
The legacy tool is ACAD...I'm too old to learn ACAD and the other guys are too old
to learn SE. Smiley Happy The compromise is for me to use SE and translate to ACAD. My
compatibility test on a simple drawing worked perfectly. Unfortunately, after spending
a week creating new SE drawings, they did not translate so nicely.
Is there a drawing standard to use in SE2D to ensure a good translation? It seems
to be having issues with the layers and font sizes. I'm using SE2D V20 and opening
the translated .dwg file in ACAD V2002.
Thanks,
HD
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Re: SE2D to ACAD translation problem

Can you elaborate on the issues you are having?
When you say you have issues with the font size, does this mean the text
height is changing from .125 to .25 or the font changes from Solid Edge ISO
to ARIAL causing strings to get longer/shorter)?
What is the issue with Layers?
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"HD Nguyen" wrote in message
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>
> Hello;
>
> I'm a new SE2D user. Had experience with SEV14 a few years back so
> familiar with
> the tool. In my new position, we mainly work with
> Architectural/Structural drawings
> so I think 2D will suffice for now.
>
> The legacy tool is ACAD...I'm too old to learn ACAD and the other guys are
> too old
> to learn SE. Smiley Happy The compromise is for me to use SE and translate to
> ACAD. My
> compatibility test on a simple drawing worked perfectly. Unfortunately,
> after spending
> a week creating new SE drawings, they did not translate so nicely.
>
> Is there a drawing standard to use in SE2D to ensure a good translation?
> It seems
> to be having issues with the layers and font sizes. I'm using SE2D V20
> and opening
> the translated .dwg file in ACAD V2002.
>
> Thanks,
> HD


Re: SE2D to ACAD translation problem

HD,
What is the problem you are seeing with respect to layers when you save a
draft file as AutoCAD?
The text problem most likely is related to font mapping. AutoCAD now
supports true type fonts. The AutoCAD file that is saved from Solid Edge
will use the same true type font as was used in Solid Edge. AutoCAD will use
the same fonts if those fonts are installed on the machine you open the file
on. If those fonts are not installed on the machine, AutoCAD will default to
the 'txt.shx' font for the ones it cannot find.
If you open the saved AutoCAD file with AutoCAD on your machine, does the
text look like the text in Solid Edge? If it does and you open the same file
on a machine that has not had Solid Edge installed before, the Solid Edge
true type fonts are not on that machine. You can copy the fonts and install
them on that machine.
When you save as AutoCAD, click on the 'Options' button on the bottom of the
Save As dialog. This will display the options to help you format the AutoCAD
file written from Solid Edge. If you click 'Next' you will eventually see a
page that allows you to set the font mapping. Notice that all the Solid Edge
fonts are mapped to the corrresponding installed Solid Edge true type font.
Regards,
Rick B.

Re: SE2D to ACAD translation problem


Ken, Rick;
Wow, thanks for the quick response. It's almost as quick as our in-house Intergraph
support back in 2000 for SEV8. Smiley Happy
The issue I'm having with the font is that the size is not consistent during translation.
One of the text will have a height of 1.5, another is 0.0486, and a third is 0.27.
In SE2D, the correct size is 0.27. I puzzled as to why it would use such strange
numbers. Turns out I specified a text height of 1.5 inches but scaled it down 0.18.
( I use 1.5 inches in the model view so I can read my notes in an architectural
drawing but then scale it down for detailing in the layout sheet.) The translation
program got "confused" by the scale factor...
1.5x0.18 = 0.27
0.27x0.18 = 0.0486
Hence, I got 3 different font heights in the same drawing. Not sure of the reason,
but the text profile remembers the scale used for each sheet, but the height reverts
to the last one used no matter the sheet. Maybe an enhancement request is to remember
the height and scale for each sheet.
As for the layers, during translation it thinks each drawing view is a different
layer in ACAD. So instead of the 3 layers you have in SE, ACAD shows maybe a dozen
or more depending on the number of drawing views (each drawing view generated 3
layers, eg, DV1_Default, DV1_Auto-Hide, etc.). This is not an issue, but the translator
seems to get confused as to which layer to put things on. And it's random in its
selection. Each time I save it to ACAD, something different happens.
I was hoping someone has a drawing standard they have developed because they've
run into these issues before. These are very minor compared to the overall value
of the program so I will live with them. Just need to figure out the workarounds.
I'm starting my drawing standards with these 2 rules for compatibility:
1) Do not use the text scale option.
2) Try to minimize the number of drawing views and/or layers in SE.
Someone more experienced will probably have better workarounds so please share.
Thanks,
HD
"Ricky Black" wrote:
>HD,
>What is the problem you are seeing with respect to layers when you save a
>
>draft file as AutoCAD?
>
>The text problem most likely is related to font mapping. AutoCAD now
>supports true type fonts. The AutoCAD file that is saved from Solid Edge
>will use the same true type font as was used in Solid Edge. AutoCAD will use
>
>the same fonts if those fonts are installed on the machine you open the file
>
>on. If those fonts are not installed on the machine, AutoCAD will default
>to
>the 'txt.shx' font for the ones it cannot find.
>
>If you open the saved AutoCAD file with AutoCAD on your machine, does the
>
>text look like the text in Solid Edge? If it does and you open the same file
>
>on a machine that has not had Solid Edge installed before, the Solid Edge
>
>true type fonts are not on that machine. You can copy the fonts and install
>
>them on that machine.
>
>When you save as AutoCAD, click on the 'Options' button on the bottom of the
>
>Save As dialog. This will display the options to help you format the AutoCAD
>
>file written from Solid Edge. If you click 'Next' you will eventually see
>a
>page that allows you to set the font mapping. Notice that all the Solid Edge
>
>fonts are mapped to the corrresponding installed Solid Edge true type font.
>
>Regards,
>Rick B.
>
>