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Solid Edge 2D Drafting (version 19) License Update

Solid Edge 2D Drafting Community,
Congratulations on being one of over 80,000 users of Solid Edge free 2D
software, version 19. In just one year, we have seen tremendous growth with
this 2D community and a staggering 19% have plans to move to 3D. As we
approach its first year of availability, I'd like to update you on the
licensing process. The license used in Solid Edge 2D Drafting is a timed
license set to expire at the end of September 2007 and as a friendly
reminder, starting in September 2007, you will start seeing a date countdown
screen when starting this application.
So you can continue using the product we will offer a license extension that
will continue your use of version 19 for an additional year. The upgrade
process is simple and I'll give you the update web page as soon as it gets
posted---within the next day or so.
Also, a new release of Solid Edge 2D Drafting (Version 20) will be available
at the end of September and adds improved translator capabilities for
AutoCAD 2D such as support for color 7 and xrefs. Included in the release is
the popular Goal Seek functionality that helps engineers solve problems by
using an easy-to-understand free-body diagram approach. You may consider
waiting for version 20 as opposed to updating your version 19 license.
Thanks again for using Solid Edge 2D Drafting
Kris Kasprzak
Director, Solid Edge Marketing

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Re: Solid Edge 2D Drafting (version 19) License Update


"Kris Kasprzak" wrote:
>Solid Edge 2D Drafting Community,
>
>The license used in Solid Edge 2D Drafting is a timed
>license set to expire at the end of September 2007 and as a friendly
>reminder, starting in September 2007, you will start seeing a date countdown


>Thanks again for using Solid Edge 2D Drafting
>
>Kris Kasprzak
>
>Director, Solid Edge Marketing
>
>

This actually scares me. I love the SE2d, but until I booted it up today and got
the countdown, I was unaware that there was going to be an expiry date.
I've been recommending this software to friends, family, collegues and Alumni.
If I may be so bold as to quote the UGS website (URL below to check for yourselves):
http://www.ugs.com/products/velocity/solidedge/solidEdge.shtml
"No more forced upgrades."
(Type "No more forced upgrades solid edge" into Google for a cached page in case
it is updated when this is posted)
Surely only allowing us to use a time limited license is a form of upgrade? I'm
trying to get a set of 2d Parametric Models done on your software, if that then
ties me into a time limited piece of software I'm now having second thoughts about
that investment of time.
How do we know we won't get a free license of Version 20 for a year and then Version
21 is no longer free? With all our legacy data now tied into SE2D you could then
start charging a small fortune for version 21, and I'd have to upgrade.
Will SE2d always be free? or are we going to be forced to upgrade to a piece of
software with a price tag?
-AS
www.continual-motion.com

Re: Solid Edge 2D Drafting (version 19) License Update


Anyone care to voice a pro/con opinion on this?
Was I the only person suprised that a message came up telling me a license was about
to expire?
Are there any other opinions on the "No more forced upgrades" issue?
-AS
www.continual-motion.com

Re: Solid Edge 2D Drafting (version 19) License Update

The versions are set to expire annually to ensure that folks stay on the
latest software, which makes support groups like this work and makes sure
you have the latest and most productive stuff. However, there is no cost for
this and, no, there is no intention to start charging for Free 2D in the
future. We intend to continue to post updated versions for free.
Dan Staples
Director, Solid Edge Product Development

"Andy Southern" wrote in message
news:46dd2286$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>
> Anyone care to voice a pro/con opinion on this?
>
> Was I the only person suprised that a message came up telling me a license
> was about
> to expire?
>
> Are there any other opinions on the "No more forced upgrades" issue?
>
> -AS
> www.continual-motion.com


Re: Solid Edge 2D Drafting (version 19) License Update


I appreciate your good intentions, and I do REALLY like both SE3d and SE2d, however
I did need this clarified.
It does raise one final question though:
Surely if the software is to remain free (to the best of our knowledge) then the
new features and help available online are incentive enough for people to remain
up to date with releases, without having to renew the licenses you have generously
given us?
I have been telling people how great your software is, and I do genuinely appreciate
the free release, but I'm still getting over the suprise of it being time-dependant
license as there was no prior mention in EULA or on the websites.
Congrats. to you and your team on SE2D.
-AS

"Dan Staples" wrote:
>The versions are set to expire annually to ensure that folks stay on the
>latest software, which makes support groups like this work and makes sure
>
>you have the latest and most productive stuff. However, there is no cost for
>
>this and, no, there is no intention to start charging for Free 2D in the
>future. We intend to continue to post updated versions for free.
>
>Dan Staples
>Director, Solid Edge Product Development
>
>

www.continual-motion.com

Re: Solid Edge 2D Drafting (version 19) License Update


"Andy Southern" wrote:
>
>Anyone care to voice a pro/con opinion on this?
>
>Was I the only person suprised that a message came up telling me a license
>was about
>to expire?
>
>Are there any other opinions on the "No more forced upgrades" issue?
>
>-AS
>www.continual-motion.com

Hello,
Also a very bad surprise for me and my company !
And the same questions with the term "free" !
MSA

Re: Solid Edge 2D Drafting (version 19) License Update

I am also surprised of this, and somehow it's not my favorite feature.

It took me about a year to gather time to try Solid Edge well enough and
overcome my initial dislikes about it.
I'm left with a month of runtime and have to go through the BIG download
again and reinstall.
Mmmmmh....
I surely feel less inclined to invest time in something that have a
finite life.
(there are so many reasons that renewals could eventually end.)
I have also referred Solid Edge to many people and am now embarrassed as
I didn't know of this surprise.
I don't mind not having the latest version, and I like to look and get
around features of a new version when I have time.
A complex software such as this does require considerable time
investment, up to now I may have learned 20% of Solid Edge Free2d.
I also know a lot of software of which I preferred older versions.
Just my impressions.
-Marc

Andy Southern wrote:
> I appreciate your good intentions, and I do REALLY like both SE3d and SE2d, however
> I did need this clarified.
>
> It does raise one final question though:
>
> Surely if the software is to remain free (to the best of our knowledge) then the
> new features and help available online are incentive enough for people to remain
> up to date with releases, without having to renew the licenses you have generously
> given us?
>
> I have been telling people how great your software is, and I do genuinely appreciate
> the free release, but I'm still getting over the suprise of it being time-dependant
> license as there was no prior mention in EULA or on the websites.
>
> Congrats. to you and your team on SE2D.
>
> -AS
>
>
>
> "Dan Staples" wrote:
>> The versions are set to expire annually to ensure that folks stay on the
>> latest software, which makes support groups like this work and makes sure
>>
>> you have the latest and most productive stuff. However, there is no cost for
>>
>> this and, no, there is no intention to start charging for Free 2D in the
>> future. We intend to continue to post updated versions for free.
>>
>> Dan Staples
>> Director, Solid Edge Product Development
>>
>>

> www.continual-motion.com

Re: Solid Edge 2D Drafting (version 19) License Update

Dear SE Free2D folks,
It looks like we have reached the end of a product cycle. After reading
Dan's message, I opened SE Free 2D and was taken aback by a message that
says I have 25 days left in this temporary license. It only says how I could
register Solid Edge if I had purchased the product. There is no further
information except to visit the website if you want to know more. Having the
understanding that SE Free 2D would always be free, this message comes off
as almost rude. The least the team could do is to provide additional
information for those who would like to continue testing the free product.
Kris' message explains it but not every user visits the newsgroup if they
don't have an issue.
I agree with Andy on some points. I think that SE is a little behind in the
software update technology. Competing freebies always check for updates upon
start-up. Why can't SE F2D have this feature too? I have no complain about
having to re-register. There is a possibility that users will have different
e-mail address over time. Requiring users to re-register is a good way of
confirming their address. As for other comments, I think that logically,
users will want to update with the latest version if cost is not a factor.
It makes sense because the latest version would have bug fixes, additional
features, better ways of completing a task and other enhancements. But let
us not kid ourselves. Nothing is free. UGS has a strategic interest in
offering this freebie as are the other competitors. First and foremost is to
convert as many AutoCAD users as possible and eventually to migrate users
into using 3D that isn't free.
I do not do much drafting work but I keep a copy of SE F2D to keep abreast
with the latest developments. Frankly, the product is almost useless to me.
It is not compatible with existing SE products that our office have
installed in other stations. You see, once an office have implemented 3D
software, it doesn't make much sense to start work from 2D. Therefore, this
free copy of SE 2D is just one way for me to gauge if it is worthwhile to
upgrade. Of course I only represent one kind of users. The other bigger pool
would be those still grappling with 2D. No reasonable users will believe
that a company will allow users to have a productive product indefinitely
unless there is an interest for doing so. We can already surmise that SE
hopes to convert as many 2D users as possible. But SE isn't loosing out if
users don't convert. As we can see, the only support Free 2D users get is
through this support group. From the postings here, SE can identify flaws in
their product if they are reported. Even learn about their product
shortcomings or enhancement and new features users would like to have. All
the feedbacks from this support group do help the team improve their
product. So it is a win-win situation.
As at this moment, the supposedly new software is still being downloaded.
Having said thus far, I would like the team to know that the distribution of
the software can be made easier and less painful if it could be downloaded
as a torrent just like what a competitor is doing. 200+MB takes too long to
download even with a download manager and especially bad if you are still on
dial-up. It wouldn't make any difference to usage because registration is
required before a license is forwarded. I do not know what other new
features the new version will have, the site doesn't list it, but V19 has
one serious drawback that AutoCAD users find useful. That is the ability to
draw, dimension and annotate in isometrics. Unless, SE provide such tools,
UGS will be hard pressed to find many AutoCAD converts.
Best regards,
T-H Lim
Georgetown,
Penang
"Marc Tellier" wrote in message
news:46dddd60@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>I am also surprised of this, and somehow it's not my favorite feature.
>
>
> It took me about a year to gather time to try Solid Edge well enough and
> overcome my initial dislikes about it.
>
> I'm left with a month of runtime and have to go through the BIG download
> again and reinstall.
>
> Mmmmmh....
>
> I surely feel less inclined to invest time in something that have a finite
> life.
> (there are so many reasons that renewals could eventually end.)
>
> I have also referred Solid Edge to many people and am now embarrassed as I
> didn't know of this surprise.
>
> I don't mind not having the latest version, and I like to look and get
> around features of a new version when I have time.
> A complex software such as this does require considerable time investment,
> up to now I may have learned 20% of Solid Edge Free2d.
>
> I also know a lot of software of which I preferred older versions.
>
> Just my impressions.
>
> -Marc
>
>
> Andy Southern wrote:
>> I appreciate your good intentions, and I do REALLY like both SE3d and
>> SE2d, however
>> I did need this clarified.
>>
>> It does raise one final question though: Surely if the software is to
>> remain free (to the best of our knowledge) then the
>> new features and help available online are incentive enough for people to
>> remain
>> up to date with releases, without having to renew the licenses you have
>> generously
>> given us?
>>
>> I have been telling people how great your software is, and I do genuinely
>> appreciate
>> the free release, but I'm still getting over the suprise of it being
>> time-dependant
>> license as there was no prior mention in EULA or on the websites.
>>
>> Congrats. to you and your team on SE2D. -AS
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dan Staples" wrote:
>>> The versions are set to expire annually to ensure that folks stay on the
>>> latest software, which makes support groups like this work and makes
>>> sure
>>>
>>> you have the latest and most productive stuff. However, there is no cost
>>> for
>>>
>>> this and, no, there is no intention to start charging for Free 2D in the
>>> future. We intend to continue to post updated versions for free.
>>>
>>> Dan Staples
>>> Director, Solid Edge Product Development
>>>
>>>

>> www.continual-motion.com