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help specifying geometry points

I mentioned in another post that I'm an old time Autocad user, back when
they were just switching from DOS to windows. I haven't done any cad in the
meantime but have started recently. I'm really impressed with what I can
get for free in Solid Edge. Anyway, my question:
In Autocad you could specify a relative coordinate whenever you were picking
points for drawing geometry. to draw a line for example you would select
the line command, then enter "@1,2", then select a point in the existing
geometry. The new line would start at an offset of 1 in the x direction and
2 in the y direction and you would continue selecting lines from there. Is
there a way to do this in Solid edge? Currently I am drawing the
intermediate lines so I can use intellisketch (a big improvement over
autocad object snap BTW) and then deleting them.
thanks,
--steve

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Re: help specifying geometry points


"Steve Ravet" wrote:
>I mentioned in another post that I'm an old time Autocad user, back when
>they were just switching from DOS to windows. I haven't done any cad in the
>
>meantime but have started recently. I'm really impressed with what I can
>
>get for free in Solid Edge. Anyway, my question:
>
>In Autocad you could specify a relative coordinate whenever you were picking
>
>points for drawing geometry. to draw a line for example you would select
>
>the line command, then enter "@1,2", then select a point in the existing
>geometry. The new line would start at an offset of 1 in the x direction and
>
>2 in the y direction and you would continue selecting lines from there. Is
>
>there a way to do this in Solid edge? Currently I am drawing the
>intermediate lines so I can use intellisketch (a big improvement over
>autocad object snap BTW) and then deleting them.
>
>thanks,
>--steve
>
>

Hi,Steve,
The previous version of SolidEdge had boxes that you could type co-ordinates in,but
the developers omitted it in the latest version.
I've been waiting a while for this feature to appear as an update,but it seems to
have been forgotten about,probably deemed to be not important by the developers.
It was mentioned a while ago that the developers would look into this,but nothing
yet.
The next time I need to do a new drawing I'll reinstall the previous version V.20
just to get the feature back.
I'm annoyed that V.20 won't open drawings that are saved in the new version. I've
saved one drawing in the new version,so I guess that will be no longer accessible
when I reinstall V.20.
I'll have to print it out just so I can get the co-ordinates to redraw it in V.20.
Regards,Allan

Re: help specifying geometry points

All,
For those that need to use the key-ins that were in V20, you can get them
back in V100.
There is a replacement coming for the keyins.
Use customize to add the old 'Grid' toolbar through the Quick Access
Toolbar.
Click on the 'Customize Quick Access Toolbar'.
Click on More Commands.
Click on 'Tools' in the combo box on the displayed dialog.
Click on Grid in the list.
Click on the Add button to add it to the list on the right.
Click on Close.
You should see 'Grid' in the list of commands at the top.
Click on 'Grid'.
The Grid toolbar should display at the bottom of the application window.
The keyins are active for use when placing geometry.
Stay away from the buttons. Use the Grid Options dialog through the command
tool bar to control the display of the grid.
Regards,
Rick B.

Re: help specifying geometry points


"Ricky Black" wrote:
>All,
>For those that need to use the key-ins that were in V20, you can get them
>
>back in V100.
>There is a replacement coming for the keyins.
>
>Use customize to add the old 'Grid' toolbar through the Quick Access
>Toolbar.
>Click on the 'Customize Quick Access Toolbar'.
>Click on More Commands.
>Click on 'Tools' in the combo box on the displayed dialog.
>Click on Grid in the list.
>Click on the Add button to add it to the list on the right.
>Click on Close.
>You should see 'Grid' in the list of commands at the top.
>Click on 'Grid'.
>The Grid toolbar should display at the bottom of the application window.
>The keyins are active for use when placing geometry.
>Stay away from the buttons. Use the Grid Options dialog through the command
>
>tool bar to control the display of the grid.
>
>Regards,
>Rick B.
>
>

Thanks Rick,
I think I can live with that until the update comes out.
Regards,Allan

Re: help specifying geometry points

Hi Rick, how about my question of entering relative coordinates? For
example say I want to start a line that is some certain distance away from
an existing geometry point. My recollection of Autocad is that while being
prompted for a point I could type something like "@3,4" then click an
existing geometry point, and the point would be placed at that offset from
the point I clicked.existing point. I find myself drawing intermediate
construction lines in SE, is there a better way?
thanks,
--steve
"Ricky Black" wrote in message
news:497dd2cf$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
> All,
> For those that need to use the key-ins that were in V20, you can get them
> back in V100.
> There is a replacement coming for the keyins.
>
> Use customize to add the old 'Grid' toolbar through the Quick Access
> Toolbar.
> Click on the 'Customize Quick Access Toolbar'.
> Click on More Commands.
> Click on 'Tools' in the combo box on the displayed dialog.
> Click on Grid in the list.
> Click on the Add button to add it to the list on the right.
> Click on Close.
> You should see 'Grid' in the list of commands at the top.
> Click on 'Grid'.
> The Grid toolbar should display at the bottom of the application window.
> The keyins are active for use when placing geometry.
> Stay away from the buttons. Use the Grid Options dialog through the
> command tool bar to control the display of the grid.
>
> Regards,
> Rick B.
>


Re: help specifying geometry points

Steve,
Your statement "My recollection of Autocad" is significant. You have to
remember that the way geometry is constrained in Autocad is different than
Solid Edge. In Autocad you would create geometry then dimension to describe
what you created. In Solid Edge you create geometry then dimension &
constrain to tell the geometry what you want it to do
Using your example: In Autocad you would key in a relative start point for
a line and maybe key in a endpoint. Later you would dimension to this point
to show where it's located. Solid Edge (and others) works a little
differently. Instead you click to approximately place your first point.
You then dimension to the point and after placing each dimension key in the
actual value. The dimension drives the geometry instead of the geometry
driving the dimension.
This is a very simple example I'm describing but it it's important. I work
with long time users of Autocad type software and they really struggle to
understand the difference at first. They usually get frustrated until they
learn to shift their paradigm. Where the light usually comes on is when
they have to make a change later. My layout, when properly constrained
updates quickly and easily. A similar layout in our older 2D software takes
more work and time to update.
As you learn the difference there are some tools you may want to take
advantage of. For example you can have SE automaticaly dimension geometry
when you hard key in a value (e.g. length of a line). This save you the
extra step of placing the dimension.
David

"Steve Ravet" wrote in message
news:4987ca96$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
> Hi Rick, how about my question of entering relative coordinates? For
> example say I want to start a line that is some certain distance away from
> an existing geometry point. My recollection of Autocad is that while
> being prompted for a point I could type something like "@3,4" then click
> an existing geometry point, and the point would be placed at that offset
> from the point I clicked.existing point. I find myself drawing
> intermediate construction lines in SE, is there a better way?
>
> thanks,
> --steve
>
> "Ricky Black" wrote in message
> news:497dd2cf$1@bbsnotes.ugs.com...
>> All,
>> For those that need to use the key-ins that were in V20, you can get them
>> back in V100.
>> There is a replacement coming for the keyins.
>>
>> Use customize to add the old 'Grid' toolbar through the Quick Access
>> Toolbar.
>> Click on the 'Customize Quick Access Toolbar'.
>> Click on More Commands.
>> Click on 'Tools' in the combo box on the displayed dialog.
>> Click on Grid in the list.
>> Click on the Add button to add it to the list on the right.
>> Click on Close.
>> You should see 'Grid' in the list of commands at the top.
>> Click on 'Grid'.
>> The Grid toolbar should display at the bottom of the application window.
>> The keyins are active for use when placing geometry.
>> Stay away from the buttons. Use the Grid Options dialog through the
>> command tool bar to control the display of the grid.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rick B.
>>

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