scale on sheet?

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Hello,
I have created a large drawing (60 Meters/40 Meters) in the 2D-Modell
with scale 1:1.
I am not able to put the drawing on a sheet (with oder less
background-frame) in any other scale (for example 1:500 or anything
else), only copy&paste will work, the scale is 1:1, Printing with factor
0,002 works, but how can I print an background ...
I hope you understand my question
I have read the (german) help files more than once. There is showen a
symbol that I cannot find in the program.
"Home?Gruppe Zeichnungsansichten? 2D-Modell".


Robert
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Re: scale on sheet?

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I am not sure exactly what your trouble is as I am a new user aswell. But what I found you could do with a placed 2dmodel view on a sheet was select the window area in the 2d model view after starting the 2d model view command and placing the 1:1 ( what comes in as 1:1)view on your drawing sheet. Then select the view ( it should be a red bounding box around the view when you have selected it) and right click with mouse to bring up "properties" and from there you can change the scale of the view to fit the drawing sheet. I don't know if this is the proper way to get around your troubles or not.

Cheers,

Jason Guest

Re: scale on sheet?

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Am 22.05.2010 18:37, schrieb jasonpguest@gmail.com:
> I am not sure exactly what your trouble is as I am a new user aswell.
> But what I found you could do with a placed 2dmodel view on a sheet was
> select the window area in the 2d model view after starting the 2d model
> view command and placing the 1:1 ( what comes in as 1:1)view on your
> drawing sheet. Then select the view ( it should be a red bounding box
> around the view when you have selected it) and right click with mouse to
> bring up "properties" and from there you can change the scale of the
> view to fit the drawing sheet. I don't know if this is the proper way to
> get around your troubles or not.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jason Guest
>
>

thanks.
in "2D Model" I have to define a block and place the new block in a free
area of "2D Model". Then copy/cut the block and paste in a sheet. In the
sheet, the block can be scaled. Not with right klick, but in the
"define"-Window (Definition Bearbeiten) on the left side of the screen.
After scale the block 0,002 (M 1:500) there are 2 "little dots" on the
screen. one dot is the scaled drawing, the other the frame. The
"drawing-dot" can be moved near the "frame-dot" and, after zoom,
correctly placed in the frame.
i am sure, there must be an easier way.
Robert

Re: scale on sheet?

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Robert,
Make a working sheet (Sheet1) active.
You can place a drawing view (2D Model View) of the 1:1 scaled geometry from
the 2D Model tab.
This drawing view can be of whatever scale you need to display it on the
working sheet.
The command is on the Sketching tab and in the Drawing View command group.
Click on the 2D Model command.
It will display the geometry from the 2D Model tab.
You can Fit and manipulate the display.
The command is prompting you to click two points that will fence the area of
your geometry to display on the working sheet.
Once you have fenced the area you want to display, you will return to the
working sheet.
You will see a box that is attached to your cursor. this represents the size
of the view you will place.
You can change the scale in the properties to the left. you can also change
the scale after the view is placed.
Click to place the view.
This is not a copy of the geometry. It is a window into the geometry on the
2D Model tab.
Regards,
Rick B.

Re: scale on sheet?

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Hello,

ok, i found it.
in the german version the "2D Model comand" ist not easy to find first time.
The german help says:"Home->Gruppe Zeichnungsansichten"
correct is: "Tabellen-> Gruppe Zeichnungsansichten" (and only when a sheet ist active)

Thanks

Robert







Am 25.05.2010 15:53, schrieb Ricky Black:
Robert, Make a working sheet (Sheet1) active. You can place a drawing view (2D Model View) of the 1:1 scaled geometry from the 2D Model tab. This drawing view can be of whatever scale you need to display it on the working sheet. The command is on the Sketching tab and in the Drawing View command group. Click on the 2D Model command. It will display the geometry from the 2D Model tab. You can Fit and manipulate the display. The command is prompting you to click two points that will fence the area of your geometry to display on the working sheet. Once you have fenced the area you want to display, you will return to the working sheet. You will see a box that is attached to your cursor. this represents the size of the view you will place. You can change the scale in the properties to the left. you can also change the scale after the view is placed. Click to place the view. This is not a copy of the geometry. It is a window into the geometry on the 2D Model tab. Regards, Rick B.

Re: scale on sheet?

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The way that i found to do it was to go to the sheet that you want to use.
Then click on the "tables" tab at the top of the screen.
Then in the drawing views box you have a 2d model option, click on this.
This will take you to a picture of your 2d model drawing.
Click to draw a 2 point box around whatever you are wanting to view on your sheet.
Then click to paste to your sheet.
While hovering over this picture on your sheet a red box will appear around it.
When it does you will be able to right click and select properties from the list.
And in the properties you will be able to change the scale.
Thanks
Justin B

Re: scale on sheet?

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I have seen the help file that shows the location of the 2-d model command as being in the same location that Rick Black explains. But I my version the location is the where Justin B. says it is located. (in the Tables Tab). Have they moved the location of the 2d model command ?
I have also had a problem when trying to place a room sized view onto a drawing sheet. The background sheet display so small that you have a hard time finding it. Can the scale be adjusted before you place the view?

Re: scale on sheet?

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The 2D Model View command in 2D Drafting ST2 is on the Tables tab.
It is there along with the Detail View command.
The Help system is based on Solid Edge Draft as far as command location.
An easy way to find a command in ST2 is with command finder.
It is at the bottom of the application window.
Both Solid Edge Draft and Solid Edge 2D Drafting share some commands.
The command layout can vary between the two.
Solid Edge 2D Drafting has only a subset of the overall commands in Solid
Edge Drafting.
The commands in Solid Edge 2D Drafting have been rearranged for better
grouping based on the commands available.
Regards,
Rick B.

Re: scale on sheet?

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Is there a way to draw a scaled drawing on a Drawing Sheet?

I have enabled the 2D Model sheet (View, Sheet View, 2D Model) and then drawn my design on the 2d Model Sheet. I have then created a 2D Model view (Tables, 2D Model, selected area to copy, chose scale from drop down list on left so that red outline can be seen on drawing sheet, enabled 'show scale' and clicked to place.)

My original design measures 3.6m x 4.5m and is correctly displayed at a scale of 1:50

However, while the Sheet Scale is set at 1:20 (Right click on sheet name, Sheet Setup..., Scale 1:20), a 10cm line drawn on the drawing sheet is not 5mm long. Why?

Re: scale on sheet?

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The sheet is indeed a "sheet" and in the physical units of the paper. The 2D model is in "real world" units. So if you want to draw "to scale", you do this in the 2D model environment.

Folks with an AutoCAD background, may find putting everything, including border and all in their 2D model and then scaling down the print is a comfortable way to work. This is also well supported in Solid Edge -- you start on the 2D Model tab and use the:

Drawing Area Setup

Command that will help you size a gigantic border for your "full scale" model. You will find you want to use the "scale" on dimension commands as well in this workflow.