Solid Edge Section Views

MLombard
Retired

0022.pngAs a part of my on-going Solid Edge orientation, I’m continuing to learn the software. I promise that at some point I will be able to answer more questions than I ask, but that day has not yet come. I’m still finding little areas of the software where there are some really amazing things going on. One of these areas I recently stumbled across was the Solid Edge Section View.

 

When you’re new to a software package, it’s so easy to be critical. You find all these things that are lacking, or don’t work the way you’re used to things working. But sometimes a little bit of patience will pay off.

 

I wanted to show a part in a 3D section view, but it wasn’t immediately obvious how to do that. Other software that I’ve used has an icon right in front of you that fairly obviously depicts a section cut into a part. But a quick perusal of the interface didn’t show any such icon within a couple of seconds, so I used the Command Finder. Section View is found on the PMI tab. Yeah, the location confused me too, but the tooltip on the icon explains that the Section View “Creates a section view through the model for Viewing, Measuring, and PMI purposes”.

 

Really? Well, that still doesn’t excuse it. Maybe put it on the View tab, or maybe with the rest of the view type commands in the lower right corner. This is probably why such an excellent command goes unnoticed. This command deserves to be somewhere where you can see it, and use it, and brag on it a little bit. One of the quaint foibles of Solid Edge in general seems to be that they might not always understand when they have something worth bragging about. They are pretty low key, which is usually a commendable trait, but sometimes they are so low key that they don’t take credit when credit is due. Still very commendable, given the alternatives, but sometimes I wish they would toot their own horn a little more. It’s a shame for features like this to be so well hidden.

 

0031.pngWell. Now that I’ve been bragging on the Section View feature so much, I suppose I ought to mention what makes it so brag-worthy.

 

0024.pngWhen I first used it, it seemed a little clunky because it appeared to require a sketch. Solid Works requires a plane. Another way of looking at that is that ‘Works is limited to a plane. A Section View in Edge works more like a drawing, where you draw the section line, or a jogged section, or a closed loop, and you decide to cut away one side or the other, and then which direction the cut will go.0026.png

 

Just so it's clear here, Edge also has plane-based section views, but these are called "clipping planes" in Edge. You can find this tool in the View tab, on the Clip group.

 

Anyway, I accomplished all this, and got my section done. At the time I really didn’t give it much thought. I’ve been learning a lot of new tools in the software for the last year or so.

 

0025.pngAfter my experience with trying to find and make quick use of the Section View command, I found myself at a Solid Edge demonstration, and Billy Oliver was showing an assembly with several active sections cut in it. And these sections were listed in the Pathfinder, and could be easily turned on and off, and weren’t limited to cutting the section with a plane.

 

There are also some options you get by right clicking on the Section View in the Pathfinder, such as showing only the cut faces, cut faces with complete bodies, and showing the cut planes. Further, you are able to edit the Section View definition as if it were a real feature, so you can go back and edit the sketch, the plane, all the cut parameters, etc regardless whether you are using Synchronous or Ordered, and even in the assembly.

 

0029.pngAnd there was more where that came from. You are also able to section all parts, cut or don’t cut hardware, select the parts that get cut, or select the parts that don’t get cut. For those that are keeping track, the things that ‘Works can’t do here are:

  • Use sketches for model section views
  • Determine a depth of section cut
  • Show only the cut faces
  • Save and access the sections from the tree
  • Easily turn on/off saved sections
  • Easily access parts to include/exclude from being cut

But being one that’s rarely 100% satisfied, I think there is still room to improve the Solid Edge Section View, and even include some things that ‘Works can’t do.

  • Discarded parts displayed as transparent or wireframe
  • Be able to draw section sketch from current view (even if that view is not lined up with any standard planes)
  • Color cut faces of sectioned parts

Can you think of additional things you’d like to point out about the Solid Edge Section View? How about more enhancements?

 

Comments
PLM World Member Experimenter

Matt,

 

I agree that the section view command should be located in the view tab.  It's not directly related to PMI and would be much easier to find in the view tab.

 

You're also right about being able to color the cut faces of a section.  It would be much easier to distinguish cut faces from others if you are looking directly at a cut face.  Colored faces would also be handy with clipping planes as well.

 

For drafting, I find the use of section views to be much easier than broken out views since I can re-use them for other draft files and I don't have to turn the lines on and off to edit them as is required in draft.

 

Kyle

PLM World Member Genius

Matt

 

Two things

 

1- I think what SW has is something in between PMI section and the View/Clipping planes

 

2- Under part you can found Live section

 

So it seems all the major ingredients are there if we could have all them combine in one single section view command ( one recipe) +one or two extra that would sure help many of us.

 

 

Phenom

Matt,

 

As always a I think your perspective is invaluable to the Solid Edge User... Especially the seasoned ones. Sometimes we forget too just how many great little features are lurking or have become so matter of fact with us.

 

"When youre new to a software package, its so easy to be critical. You find all these things that are lacking, or dont work the way youre used to things working. But sometimes a little bit of patience will pay off."

 

Yeah, well that's true for us old timers as well. But again I find these episodes great reads. What is so great about yours is that you have such a wealth of knowledge about CAD and watching you learn Solid Edge is truly educational. Your fresh approach has taught me plenty and this article is another fine example.

 

Thanks.

 

Oh and as far as "NEW" features goes. I wish we had the ability to "ghost" selected parts and not just cut them. There are times when I'd like to see a part NOT Sectioned, but ghosted amongst other parts that are sectioned. This would be great when making illustration for instruction manuals, etc. where the part's reference to other parts that are not in the same assembly are helpful to see. This maybe something for a Saved View, but here it would be more powerful.

 

Bob

Retired

Luc,

 

SW has an assembly cut which is the closest thing to SE sections. Can't turn them on/off as easily. Live section is cool too. I wish I had thought of that while writing this article. You're right, combining all the section capabilities might be cool, or at least easier to find.

 

 

Bob,

 

Thanks for the encouragement, It's hard being a noob when you are used to being a veteran (to rephrase the classic "it's hard to fly like an eagle when at heart you're just a turkey").

Valued Contributor

Matt,

 

I find myself using the view command quite often and saving sections along with a saved view. This is very useful.

 

If the sectioned faces had hatch pattern this would really put the command over the top.

 

If you've seen Inventor or Spaceclaim's way of handling the sectioned faces with a hatch pattern this is what I'm talking about.  The Solid Edge section tool is the most powerful one that I've had a chance to use in Cad software but at this time the graphical representation of the sectioned faces  does the command no justice.

 

Hey....we all love eye candy right!

 

Craig

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