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Re: Solid Edge CAD Management

PLM World Member Genius PLM World Member Genius
PLM World Member Genius

Yes, Ally is our current VAR, the other ceased to exist.

 

Being a fabricator/manufacturer our titleblocks are essentially part of the router for the shop. So we have 20+ attributes that go in the model/drawing/Insight. We need to be able to search for everything or anything with just a few or even one piece of information. And with the needs of sheet metal, we put even more info on that titleblock with material/gage/upper-lower tooling combinations. Not everyone needs the VB like we do, but I wouldn't want to work without it at this point.

 

Our customers vary from having really good engineering processes, to napkin sketches with no part number or revision. We end up being their engineering process a lot of the time. But Insight shines with finding old jobs that we haven't touched in years. Just last Friday I searched/found a job we had made once about 13 years ago. The customer had no prints/part numbers from then, "just build what you did before" was their request...and we still had it all in Insight from a simple search of the company name. None of our data is organized by Company/Customer since we implimented Insight.

 

Ryan

 

 

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Ryan Gudorf
CAD/CAM Supervisor
Budde Sheet Metal Works, Inc.
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
Solid Edge V20
NX11.0.1
TC10.1.5 32 GB RAM, nVIDIA Quadro K4200

Re: Solid Edge CAD Management

Gears Esteemed Contributor Gears Esteemed Contributor
Gears Esteemed Contributor

Our process is a little simpler in that our sheet metal drawings tend to be somewhat minimalistic and depend on shop expertise and the reliance on long established "standards" - how-to drawings that were generated decades ago.

Bruce Shand
SE2019 MP8 - Insight - Win10 - K4200

Re: Solid Edge CAD Management

Solution Partner Legend Solution Partner Legend
Solution Partner Legend

Insight based on SharePoint can much more than just handling the CAD files.

 

  • Full integration of MS Office
  • Workflows (automatic /manual)
  • SeachEngine

We have indexed all of our files (Office, PDF, TIFF. etc.) with SharePoint and now we can start searching like in Google. This happened without any additional effort or changes in the daily way of work.

Even TIFF-Files will be indexed because the Sharepoint can do an OCR on Images.

 

The user will love it because just type your keywords and you get the search results.

 

You will be positively surprised on the results

 

All of my colleagues love to work with it!

 

Stefan

smitsch@unitec.de
www.all4edge.de

Re: Solid Edge CAD Management

Gears Esteemed Contributor Gears Esteemed Contributor
Gears Esteemed Contributor

I just wish the Sharepoint interface for Edge had more hooks into Edge operations. Where-used, open with revman, link info, open read only and the other options on the Edge open dialog, etc. The same items you get in the search dialog at least. As it is, you have to use different interfaces to do rather common tasks. Gets annoying to me.

Bruce Shand
SE2019 MP8 - Insight - Win10 - K4200

Re: Solid Edge CAD Management

Solution Partner Legend Solution Partner Legend
Solution Partner Legend

Some new options are available with ST8


Insight supports new shortcut commands with SharePoint 2010 and SharePoint 2013:
• Open with Life Cycle Assistant
• Open with Revision Manager
• Open with View and Markup
• Where Used
• Insert Component

 

Stefan

smitsch@unitec.de
www.all4edge.de

Re: Solid Edge CAD Management

Solution Partner Legend Solution Partner Legend
Solution Partner Legend

BTW: I found the information quick and easy with the search technology of SharepointSmiley Wink

SharePointSearch.jpg

Some of the resulats are in a normal "file storage" and some are directly stored in the SharePoint!

 

We recommend to use the Webinterface of SharePoint. There you have more and powerful search options. The most common technology that is used by the customers is the listfilter you may know from Excel. With this you are fast as lightning in finding the right parts.

 

 

Stefan

smitsch@unitec.de
www.all4edge.de

Re: Solid Edge CAD Management

Gears Esteemed Contributor Gears Esteemed Contributor
Gears Esteemed Contributor

@Stefan_Mitsch

 

"Insight supports new shortcut commands with SharePoint 2010 and SharePoint 2013:"

 

Awesome! We're waiting for MP1 before moving to ST8.

Bruce Shand
SE2019 MP8 - Insight - Win10 - K4200

Re: Solid Edge CAD Management

Solution Partner Legend Solution Partner Legend
Solution Partner Legend

Some more details and Screenshots about Insight/SharePoint!

 

Stefan

smitsch@unitec.de
www.all4edge.de

Re: Solid Edge CAD Management

Gears Esteemed Contributor Gears Esteemed Contributor
Gears Esteemed Contributor

@Stefan_Mitsch,

 

Stefan, or anyone else with input: Do you use Windows Explorer to open Insight managed files or not? In other words is using Explorer viewed as possibly causing problems with Insight?

Certainly I understand not moving, copying or deleting existing Insight managed parts but is it true that simply using Explorer to open files can be problematic so it's best to avoid it?

Bruce Shand
SE2019 MP8 - Insight - Win10 - K4200

Re: Solid Edge CAD Management

Solution Partner Legend Solution Partner Legend
Solution Partner Legend

Working with the Windows Explorer ist not a problem.

 

You will add the Insight/SharePoint Document libs as network folders to your environment.

Most of the customers start with the Windows Explorer because it is the closest way of work they already know. In the first you will not see any different from the managed and unmanaged environment. Also any file action within Solid Edge (Save, Save as, Save copy, etc) working in the usual way.

 

 

Here are the differences:

Make a move or a copy from the unmanaged environment to the managed environment will fail because the Insight specific information are missing (SEDocID, SeLinkData, etc). For this you have to use the "Add to Library" from the Revision Manager.

But you can open an unmanged assembly and do a "Save as" within Solid Edge in the managed environment Solid Edge will copy all linked files to Insight and add all Insight specific information. That is very easy!

 

Renaming/Moving file - Here comes the Wow-Effect:

This is were the Wow-Effect comes when we show Insight.

We start renaming and moving (Drag &drop to other folders) files within the Windows Explorer. (Don't do this without Insight!!!)

Then we start the Assembly and the assembly will find all renamed and moved files! No broken links!

It is not magic it is Insight!

This is because of the technology in the background. The links will always find there documents even if they are renamed or moved.

 

Conclusion: There is no problem in using the Windows Explorer. The usage of the Webinterface has other options and advantages. Using both ways is also very common.

 

 

Stefan

 

smitsch@unitec.de
www.all4edge.de