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While importing STEP or parasolid WHY an exclamatory mark !

When I import a External CAD file it has a part file with exclamatory mark then I do optimize in -> Inspect  then goes OFF the symbol ... 

 

The question what difference does it make ??

 

same question, When goemetry inspection is done what is the impact or wat is the result .. ??

MfG -
Viv
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Re: While importing STEP or parasolid WHY an exclamatory mark !

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I agree there is no visible impact on the imported model after performing the Optimize. Also the numbers before and after tally up in the report. As per the Help:

  

Use the Optimize command to increase the quality of the imported model by simplifying B-spline definitions and healing model edges. Even if the model does not contain faults, it is always good practice to run the Optimize command since it improves the precision and complexity in most imported models.

   

So I believe it is some kind of internal optimization and tidying up the model so that subsequent operations like Boolean or edge extraction / intersection will be error-free and precise.

  

Only someone form the dev team can throw some light on what's happens under the hood since the documentation team does not seem to have done their job of fully explaining the use, other than the obvious descriptions for the buttons.

 

It is obvious that Solid Edge is capable of optimizing the imported model so it should ideally do this while importing itself, leading me to believe that this might be more time consuming operation, especially on large models, hence left to the user via a separate command, hence the exclamation mark with a neat little tool tip (and not an Error icon).

  

I'd still insist the context menu in the PathFinder, in such case, should readily provide the Optimize command and not leave the user searching for it.

Re: While importing STEP or parasolid WHY an exclamatory mark !

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Hi,

Using optimise is very helpful for recognising geometry features, then when importing Geometry not all the features are recognisable to be able to select them and edit them.
See the @AllyPLM Youtube Video "9:50 min"
Example: Curves to circles !

 

Solid Edge - Working with Imported Geometry - Ally PLM Lunch Bytes

 

Optimize.jpg

 

Yasser

Re: While importing STEP or parasolid WHY an exclamatory mark !

The Question is what is the use ?? what makes the difference ??  Because I dont find any ..

MfG -
Viv

Re: While importing STEP or parasolid WHY an exclamatory mark !

increase the quality ?? how I dont find any changes or improvement ...


MfG -
Viv

Re: While importing STEP or parasolid WHY an exclamatory mark !

I have to say that the Allyplm Youtube Video shows a very good example of 19 Circles that were optimized from 82 Curves. These are after optimizing selectable and Editable.

But in many cases after using Optimize you don't see any "visible" changes... That's right!

Yasser

Re: While importing STEP or parasolid WHY an exclamatory mark !

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I had some imported parts, where i could not place relations in assembly. The "plane" faces and "cylinders" didn't work with relationships. After the optimization everything was fine. 

Greetings from Germany
Christian Kunkel
https://c-k-m.info

Re: While importing STEP or parasolid WHY an exclamatory mark !

This is something someone posted some months ago about optimizing (I think it was UK-Dave):


After importing 3rd party files into Solid Edge there is a blue circle "i"
symbol shown on the imported features. What is this symbol and what does it
mean?

•This blue circle with an "i" symbol means you need to run the Optimize
command because the imported geometry has not been optimized.

Some of the downsides of non-optimized geometry include:

Window display performance:
---------------------------

* Slow window updates such as zoom or fit

* View rotations may be slow and jerky.

* Abnormal display problems (Missing faces)

Modelling problems:
-------------------

* Problems adding or removing material (cuts/protrusions)

* Direct modelling failures (unable to move face)

* Crashes or abnormal finish to a commands

Draft Drawing view creation or updates:
---------------------------------------

* Unable to create drawing, section, or detailed views

* Crashes

* Update view fails, hangs, or takes an abnormally long time to finish

What the Optimize command does:

"Increases the precision and quality of the model by simplifying B-Surface
definitions, heal edges, and identifies and replaces blend like faces with
a PS rolling ball blend."

From the Solid Edge Help documentation
(https://docs.plm.automation.siemens.com/tdoc/se/107/help/#uid:index_importi
ng_exporting_files:xid280327Smiley Surprisedle3a):

"You can use the Optimize command to increase the quality of the imported
model by simplifying B-spline definitions and healing model edges. Even if
the model does not contain faults, it is always good practice to run the
Optimize command since it improves the precision and complexity in most
imported models."

If you ever see the blue circle with an "i" symbol, please take the time
to run the Optimize command.

Bruce Shand
ST9 MP8 - Insight - Win10 - K4200

Re: While importing STEP or parasolid WHY an exclamatory mark !

My question is why isn't this a function within the translator?  Seems silly that you have to do this as a separate step.


Thanks,
Ken

Production: ST9 MP7
Testing: ST10

Re: While importing STEP or parasolid WHY an exclamatory mark !

@Grundey, The only reason I can think of that it might be an advantage to have it run separately is when you have a many body multi-body part and you may not want to run it on all bodies because you'll delete some first. Not sure that's a great reason but it can take a while to run on complex bodies.

Bruce Shand
ST9 MP8 - Insight - Win10 - K4200