I want to see if any one else desired this same feature.
For sheet metal, I would like to be able to add "back gage" and "stick out" to sheet metal bend tables.
Does any body else have the same wish?
Back gage = the back stop dimension that must be entered into the folding or break machine used to align the sheet metal in the machine before bending.
Stick out = The distance the part is sticking out of the machine before it's bent. This allows the operator to check the back gage with a tape measure where they can use it.
If the bend in question is the first bend of a part, these are easy to come up. Simply dimension from the edge of the piece to the bend line. But once you get past the first bend (say you have 7 bends), then these values are very time consuming to generate.
So mutch so, that my entire workflow is cetered around getting these values generated.
My job is create drawing for two purposes.
1. Cut steel (typically sheet metal flat patterns)
2. Create bend table that include back gage and stick out.
Then the workers can cut and fold the sheet metal with known dimensions.
Why is nobody else asking for this?
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For SE to do this, you would also need to add sequence numbers to the bends so SE know which bend is bent first, second, third, etc... because sometimes you have multiple bends in a length and the back gage dimension is from another bend, not the edge of the sheet metal. While I agree this could be handy for simple parts, once you start dealing with compounded bends it adds a layer of complexity that is in the realm of the CAM software's specialty.
The ability to generate this information when creating a bend table would be pretty slick. Perhaps allow dragging of rows to swap bend order and update the table values for back gauge.
I'm a one man engineering show and passing responsibility to the next guy means pushing my chair back, spinning in a circle, and then putting my next 'hat' on. Do I want to learn yet ANOTHER software package? No. I want SE to be my manufacturing solution. Does that sometimes mean entirely unrealistic goals for software improvements? Yep! But I think something like this would be a HUGE feather in their cap and go a step towards keeping the sheet metal environment in that #1 midrange spot in my mind. So I'll keep dreaming and pushing, thanks.
@Grundey Just to be clear, focusing only on the bend order aspect, Solid Edge already allows you to specify/reorder the bend order. This is done in the Sheet Metal part when you use the Bend Table feature (tools tab) in that environment (and use move up/down to reorder them -- the balloons renumber automatically ) and then this info retrieved into the bend table in Draft.
Yes, and now that you mention that I remember it. See what happens when you're out of the sheet metal business for 13 years
@Grundey Believe me Ken, I was sore amazed when it appeared that the Oracle of Pella (if Omaha can have one, why not Pella!) seemed to be out of his depth. Surely not. But the 13 years away explains it. :-) Seriously, you always have so many good tidbits and advice to add around here. Keep it up!
You would have to input more than the bend sequence. The software would also need to know what direction each bend is comming from. This would be an additional input that is not currently available.
The real kicker is that some math must be done in the background. Lets say you are creating a bend table for a C shape or channel and that the piece os set in the machine with the existing fold on teh back gage. For the second bend, the back gage dimention would be a dimension from the bend line to the previus bends closest tangent line + Radius + Thickness.
It gets complicated quick. This is why I want it. It costs me forever to do this manually or what I have come to is lots of programming in the draft files.
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