showing an the same subassem in two different positions

hey guys,

 

 

im sorry if this is as clear as mud... i tried my best to explain it simply. i dont know what this would be called in solid edge. (solidworks convertee)

 

 

i need to be able to display this part at either 0 or 180 deg independantly of it duplicated sister.

 

i dont want to make another assembly of it in a different orientation as it totally the same assembly.

 

one arm rest assembly  is on the left side, and a duplicated assembly is on the right side.

the only changed between the two is the rotation of the arm rest.

 

 

 

i have an arm rest assembly  (#1)

it has a post and the actual armrest itself (+fasteners) is a sub-assm. (#2)

it has a mounting bracket assembly. second sub-assem (#3)

 

that bolts onto the side of the console. (the main assem) (#A)

 

i need (#2) to be able to rotate 180 deg and (#3) to remain fixed.

 

when i inserted #1 into assembly #A

i made # 1 an adjustable assembly so that i could just rotate the part of the armrest i needed to show in the other orientation. i thought this would work because 

i deleted the exiting mating relations and added a axial align and  mate

so that it would rotate around the bolt .

 

 

but i was not able to rotate just that subassembly (#2)

 it rotated the whole thing #1

 

 

 

i can open assembly of #1 rotate #2 180 degrees. but that doesnt allow me to independantly rotate 

 

 

is there a way of making the second assembly an independant duplication?

or is there a way that i can just select assem #2 whilst im actually in assem A

rotate that assembly independantly of the other side arm rest.

 

 

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9 REPLIES

Re: showing an the same subassem in two different positions

Legend
Legend

Hi,

 

I think I would use sub-assemblies #2 and #3 as their own assemblies so I could rotate them without affecting others.

Re: showing an the same subassem in two different positions

Phenom
Phenom

2 ways to do it (if you have to have assembly 1)

 

1. Adjustable assembly - make 1 an adjustable assembly, leave assembly 2 free to rotate (as you have done). Assembly 3 is fixed.

In your main assembly (A) you then need to make 1 adjustable - right click on the assembly in pathfinder > simplified/adjustable >  adjustable assembly.

Then you will need to add the final constraint to define the rotation of assembly 2.

This is applied in assembly A.

 

2. Alternate position assembly - this is a bit more complicated, so you will need to look this up in help.

 

Personally I would go with the adjustable as you are almost there with it - I think its just the final constraint you are missing.

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Re: showing an the same subassem in two different positions

Hey beachcomber thanks very much. i left it floating and used the angle mate to give me my positions.

i ended up having to re-assemble   #1 so it had the correct mates

the previous guy who made this assembly had really just used the mates for positioning.

 

have you used much of the alternate position assembly? 

i feel like that would probably be a better tool to use for the type of assemblies we create.

 

Re: showing an the same subassem in two different positions

Siemens Phenom Siemens Phenom
Siemens Phenom

You might want to try (new in ST8) the "Override Relationship" option.  See attached image as a starting point.  If you need additional, more detailed informatiton, feel free to contact me directly.AdjustableAssy1.JPG

Kevin Grayson
Solid Edge Technical Consultant
kevin.grayson@siemens.com

Re: showing an the same subassem in two different positions

Esteemed Contributor
Esteemed Contributor

So all that's required is to select adjustable assembly for the sub, right?

And is each instance of the sub (say there are 2) independent within the higher assembly?

How many levels deep can the sub be?

If more than 1 level can there be the same sub at different levels controlled independently?

I think I'm fresh out of questions...

Bruce Shand
ST9 MP8 - Insight - Win10 - K4200

Re: showing an the same subassem in two different positions

Phenom
Phenom

It's about time this made its way down into SE! I used that quite a bit in my NX days! I want to say that functionality showed up around 2007 Smiley Surprised

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Re: showing an the same subassem in two different positions

Phenom
Phenom

So does this mean in the OP's case all you need to do is create an angular relationship that controls the rotation of the upper assembly, then you can make 1 instance 0 and the other 180° ?

 

I didn't know about this option as we are still using ST7.

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Re: showing an the same subassem in two different positions

Phenom
Phenom

Why not a Alternate Assemblies?

If you don't have much members it is sort-of stable.

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Re: showing an the same subassem in two different positions

Esteemed Contributor
Esteemed Contributor

"sort of stable". There's a ringing endorsement. Robot Indifferent

Bruce Shand
ST9 MP8 - Insight - Win10 - K4200