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How to share EPDM product data with outside partners?

Experimenter
Experimenter

I am trying to understand the best practices for sharing product data within TC with companies/partners/suppliers/co-developers outside our company. At present, the only method I can find is to 'pack' the some or all of product data (meta data, assembly & parts, drawings, and all other relevant data) and send it to the recipient. And when there is an update to the data that has been shared, then do this all over again.

On the recipient's side, they have to 'unpack' the data and load it into their system. We have a few scenarios here:
1. The recipient has TC+NX - they may be able to take the data 'as is' with very little massaging to get into their system.

2. The recipient has PDM/PLM/CAD from another vendor - they have to find a way to "import" the data into their system, and this may lead to data being neither imported into their PLM system or their CAD system.
3. The recipient has only CAD system - they have to grab the CAD data out of the 'pack' and use it, perhaps after translating it into their native CAD system, if they arent using NX.

And all of them have to this over again the moment something changes at the sending end to either the metadata or the CAD data.

I would like to know if the user community has evolved a set of best practices for each scenario. I would appreciate if people can share their thoughts on how they would deal with this situation in their company.

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Re: How to share EPDM product data with outside partners?

Solution Partner Phenom Solution Partner Phenom
Solution Partner Phenom
Supplier integration is very robust and supports all the scenarios mentioned as well as a few that you don't.

The highest level of integration is Supplier Collaboration.
https://docs.plm.automation.siemens.com/tdoc/sc/2.0.1/supp_coll_html_collection/#uid:index

For the cases you specified, the best solution is probably the Briefcase Browser.
https://docs.plm.automation.siemens.com/tdoc/sc/2.0.1/supp_coll_html_collection/#uid:index_PLM00195:...

Randy Ellsworth, Teamcenter Architect, Applied CAx, LLC
NX 11.0.1.mp01 | SW 2016 | TcUA 11.2.3
Evaluating:AW 3.2

Re: How to share EPDM product data with outside partners?

Experimenter
Experimenter

Thanks Randy for your reply.

If I understand it correctly, the Supplier collaboration foundation seems to require TC at both ends. (Please correct me if I am wrong). Unfortunately, this idea wont work for the scenarios I have mentioned. Out of every 10 suppliers/partners we have, 8 use other systems than TC+NX.

I did check out the Briefcase Browser, and for a one-off transaction, it works nicely. Again, if the receiver is also on TC+NX, it works very well, but for other partners, it does not. And trying to automate packing & sending the data every time there is a change in the metadata and/or CAD data is just too **bleep** difficult. Even if we were doing this for just 10 products with 2 changes a month per product, with 4 different partners, this is a big undertaking.

 

We need a continuous and automatic way for our partners to get the changed data from us so they can focus on doing their work, instead of keeping the data insync with us.
But I do appreciate your thoughts on this. Thanks

Re: How to share EPDM product data with outside partners?

Siemens Valued Contributor Siemens Valued Contributor
Siemens Valued Contributor

I would still encourage you to explore Suplier Collaboration. Teamcenter is not equired at both the sides. In fact that is precisely the use case Supplier Collaboration supports. I believe Briefcase Browser supports both CATIA and NX. Which Teamcenter version are you targeting?

 

Best Regards

Projyal

Re: How to share EPDM product data with outside partners?

Experimenter
Experimenter

Thanks Prajyol. We are working with TCE 10.x.
 
Briefcase Browser works for TCE+NX, but it also requires our suppliers to login to our system everytime there is an update, 'pack' all the data, download it to their system and update their PLM/CAD with this new data. And if they happen to be using some other PLM+CAD (not TCE+NX), then they are out of luck - they have to 'unpack' the data & then find a way to load it into their system. With many suppliers using many such PLM+CAD combinations, most of them just throw up their hands. Eventually, the burden simply falls on our IT to give the suppliers the data they need in the format(s) they want. So BB works in limited cases, but for the most part, NO.

I am going to spend more time researching Supplier Collaboration, but again I think it seems to impose something on the supplier's end - which would be a non-starter for most of our suppliers. Correct me if I am wrong. But thanks for the tip.

Re: How to share EPDM product data with outside partners?

Experimenter
Experimenter

Does Supplier collaboration only work with Oracle Databases and not MS SQL databases?

Re: How to share EPDM product data with outside partners?

Solution Partner Phenom Solution Partner Phenom
Solution Partner Phenom
There are three levels of supplier collaboration and they are all independent of which database you use. The framework is what you need to be concerned about. J2EE can be run with a MS SQL database (doesn't have to be .NET). Oracle doesn't support .NET so you'll have to run J2EE.

Randy Ellsworth, Teamcenter Architect, Applied CAx, LLC
NX 11.0.1.mp01 | SW 2016 | TcUA 11.2.3
Evaluating:AW 3.2