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PS upload realize continuous operation

PLM World Member Phenom PLM World Member Phenom
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hello,

 

i have 2 questions about continuous operation.

 

which properties check ps for upload a real robot path to check whats is the correct operation type?

(weldpoint include the path ==> weld operation)

(seam include the path ==> continuous operation)

 

i my case a have a real continuous path with seams.

i have created for all seam own custom data files.

 

but after upload the path is type continuous without seams.

 

 

question 2:

why can not change the properties (robot) of a continuous operation?

(Robot 1 to Robot 2)

PS info. " Robot conflicts the program robot"

 

???

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Kind regards,

Benjamin Voelzke
9 REPLIES

Re: PS upload realize continuous operation

Siemens Phenom Siemens Phenom
Siemens Phenom

Q1:

Upload creates seams from location identified as seam start to location indentified as seam end. A location can be identified as seam start or seam end if the process is explicitly supported (for instance ABB Disp) or if the XML Motion Configuration identifies Seam Start or Seam End customized motions (for not officially supported processes).

 

Q2:

no idea

Re: PS upload realize continuous operation

PLM World Member Phenom PLM World Member Phenom
PLM World Member Phenom

this is my real path

 

 PROC mvB9LiRhVL()
    !*************************
    ! B9 Radhaus vorne links
    !*************************
    !PDM 8T0 899 Blatt 201 Pos. F
    MoveJ [[919.54,-592.72,-96.87],[0.647443,0.312467,0.033761,-0.694298],[0,0,2,0],[2523.14,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vFast,z50,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    MoveJ [[718.709,-688.826,213.849],[0.490028,0.397989,0.271449,-0.726493],[0,0,2,0],[2631.04,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vFast,z50,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    MoveJ [[541.54,-525.16,120.1],[0.351852,-0.486487,0.478811,0.640529],[0,0,0,0],[2626.3,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp500,z30,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL\ON,[[581.15,-524.86,121.91],[0.338922,-0.468929,0.488207,0.653375],[0,0,0,0],[2626.3,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp500,bdB9LiRhVL_10,z10,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL [[756.44,-496.13,117.64],[0.389095,-0.58666,0.399276,0.587385],[0,0,1,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp500,bdB9LiRhVL_10,z50,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL [[886.28,-490.5,119.56],[0.497134,-0.496586,0.563024,0.435054],[0,0,0,0],[2626.3,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp500,bdB9LiRhVL_10,z50,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL\OFF,[[1024.9,-527.95,136.39],[0.485758,-0.480889,0.575165,0.449418],[0,0,0,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp500,bdB9LiRhVL_10,z20,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    MoveL [[1075.35,-577.866,153.189],[0.496938,-0.496788,0.562962,0.435119],[0,0,0,0],[2626.3,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp800,z50,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    !PDM 8T0 899 Blatt 201 Pos. H
    MoveL [[1130.68,-584.756,51.2487],[0.561679,-0.504244,0.515767,0.405264],[0,0,1,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp1500,z50,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL\ON,[[1076.18,-546.94,0.26],[0.607099,-0.450263,0.557163,0.343903],[0,0,0,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp250,bdB9LiRhVL_20,z10,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL [[985.44,-506.54,60.61],[0.561669,-0.50356,0.516407,0.405322],[0,0,0,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp350,bdB9LiRhVL_20,z20,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL [[746.4,-489.89,116.31],[0.540544,-0.501759,0.498825,0.455226],[0,0,0,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp350,bdB9LiRhVL_20,z20,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL\OFF,[[559.96,-493.04,111.75],[0.479252,-0.429272,0.559465,0.52254],[0,0,0,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp500,bdB9LiRhVL_20,z10,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    MoveL [[531.29,-496.21,119.89],[0.47925,-0.429289,0.559478,0.522514],[0,0,0,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp250,z30,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    MoveJ [[531.19,-468.74,153.1],[0.161455,-0.685517,0.547076,0.452453],[0,0,0,0],[2626.25,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],v1000,z50,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL\ON,[[568.48,-448.33,182.78],[0.161456,-0.685523,0.547104,0.45241],[0,0,0,0],[2626.25,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],v1000,bdB9LiRhVL_30,z20,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL [[745.18,-436.07,168.12],[0.216257,-0.68674,0.576123,0.386924],[0,0,0,0],[2626.28,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],v800,bdB9LiRhVL_30,z30,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL [[833.72,-428.13,167.26],[0.216432,-0.686665,0.576073,0.387035],[0,0,0,0],[2626.28,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],v800,bdB9LiRhVL_30,z30,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL\OFF,[[1002.96,-439.59,183.16],[0.412292,-0.644423,0.594722,0.247076],[0,0,0,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],v800,bdB9LiRhVL_30,z20,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    MoveJ [[965.13,-512.96,228.32],[0.39717,-0.62765,0.54327,0.391378],[0,0,0,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],v1000,z50,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    MoveJ [[897.979,-511.486,195.049],[0.451212,-0.566833,0.505255,0.468855],[0,0,0,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],v300,z50,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    MoveChangeApplic\L,1,[[905.099,-542.406,204.619],[0.451107,-0.567106,0.504991,0.468911],[0,0,0,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp1500,z10,tSPA_N3_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    !
    !PDM 8T0 899 Blatt 201 Pos.
    MoveL [[875.869,-635.416,239.039],[0.839255,-0.466688,0.052305,-0.274075],[0,0,1,0],[2626.29,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],v600,z40,tSPA_N1_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    MoveL [[1048.49,-497.45,158.36],[0.725845,-0.623594,0.280203,-0.075954],[0,0,1,0],[2626.27,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],v800,z50,tSPA_N1_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL\ON,[[1049.12,-494.37,139.6],[0.716094,-0.62762,0.299801,-0.058533],[0,0,1,0],[2626.27,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp700,bdB9LiRhVL_40,z5,tSPA_N1_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    DispL\OFF,[[1053.91,-493.65,-68.89],[0.743339,-0.618836,0.221336,-0.124514],[0,0,1,0],[2626.28,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],v600,bdB9LiRhVL_40,z10,tSPA_N1_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    MoveL [[1053.68,-493.77,-123.82],[0.743337,-0.618829,0.221332,-0.124564],[0,0,1,0],[2626.28,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],v1500,z50,tSPA_N1_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    !
    MoveJ [[837.269,-567.586,-23.2013],[0.51787,-0.230792,0.16476,0.807093],[0,0,-1,0],[2023.84,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09,9E+09]],vApp1500,z50,tSPA_N1_100\WObj:=wobjB9Li;
    RETURN;
  ENDPROC

 

 

i have created for all displ parameters own custom xml's.

 

after upload in ps all locations is via. this is correct.

 

but the operation is not a weld or a handling.

He is a continuos operation.

 

is it possible ps checks the operation type before the custom xml's?

 

thanks

 

 

 

 

 

Kind regards,

Benjamin Voelzke

Re: PS upload realize continuous operation

Siemens Phenom Siemens Phenom
Siemens Phenom

This is a particular case where your custom via motion looks like a regular standard seam motion. If you rename the DispL to MyDispL for instance, then upload should create a weld operation.

Is it a problem that a continuous operation is created instead of a weld in your case?

Re: PS upload realize continuous operation

PLM World Member Phenom PLM World Member Phenom
PLM World Member Phenom

correct

thats a problem.

 

in my case the upload paths define as continuos operation.

 

in this case i have the problem, i can not change the properties of these path (robot 1 to robot 2)

 

Kind regards,

Benjamin Voelzke

Re: PS upload realize continuous operation

Siemens Phenom Siemens Phenom
Siemens Phenom

I do not see the reason why you cannot change the robot on the continuous operation...

Anyway you can still create a new weld operation and move all uploaded via locations to this new weld operation.

Re: PS upload realize continuous operation

PLM World Member Phenom PLM World Member Phenom
PLM World Member Phenom

correct this i is my own solution for these problem.

 

Kind regards,

Benjamin Voelzke

Re: PS upload realize continuous operation

Experimenter
Experimenter

Hi,

 

for every upload there will be also a Robot program created and the uploaded operation is called from this program (-> Robotic Program Inventory).

 

As long as the operation is added to a program for one robot, you cannot assign another robot to this operation.

You can either delete the created program, if you do not need it, or edit the program and remove the operation. After that you can assign another robot to the operation.

 

 

Best greets from Cologne,

Jürgen Thoma

 

Re: PS upload realize continuous operation

PLM World Member Phenom PLM World Member Phenom
PLM World Member Phenom

hello thoma,

 

sorry you have miss understand the problem.

 

in my case, after upload the continuous operation can not change the robot of these path.

(properties operation)

 

 

 

Kind regards,

Benjamin Voelzke

Re: PS upload realize continuous operation

Experimenter
Experimenter

Hi,

 

try to have a look into the Robotic Program Inventory.

 

You cannot change a robot in the Operation Properties as long as the Operation(Path) is inside a program. Then you will get the Error "Robot conflicts with program". And with every upload there is automatically a program created.

 

 

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regards

Jürgen Thoma